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HELP! Whats causing this?! Devs??

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March 18, 2016 7:04:27 PM from Ashes of the Singularity ForumsAshes of the Singularity Forums

https://youtu.be/GpNnjpMQWlI

Started this stuttering effect after the last few updates. Up until about 2 weeks ago it never had this problem and would play smooth on the same settings. If you look at the end results I am still getting 35+- FPS overall in the benchmark, but it doesn't look that way at all. I'm on the latest drivers, latest update, stock Sapphire 390X, dual X5690s. Help!

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Reply #1 March 18, 2016 7:20:10 PM
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Does it do it in a game as well or just in the benchmark?

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Reply #2 March 18, 2016 8:13:18 PM
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Does it in game as well but not as bad since the benchmark pushes things much harder.

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Reply #3 March 18, 2016 8:17:38 PM
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This was never an issue a few weeks ago even on much higher settings.

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Reply #4 March 18, 2016 8:23:16 PM
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Didn't see the video before. Ouch, that is quite bad. Some dual card Nvidia users were describing their benchmarks like yours but when they actually played the game the experience was fine, that's why I asked my original question. If it effects you in both benchmark and in-game it is likely different bug or a different manifestation of the same bug. Apart from double checking the driver is the latest and checking the game cache integrity in Steam I am not sure what you can do. Hopefully a Dev will see this.

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Reply #5 March 18, 2016 8:37:07 PM
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Ok i've never verified the integrity of the game on steam before but I just tried it and the first time it failed and the second time it completed successfully. Ran the benchmark again and stutters were reduced by a solid 50+%. Still stutters but significantly improved just from verifying the integrity in steam. Whats going on? Thanks for your help!

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Reply #6 March 18, 2016 8:54:57 PM
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What happens if you force it to run on a single CPU?

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Reply #7 March 18, 2016 9:12:54 PM
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I set the affinity in Windows to only use CPU node 0 and it did not seem to have any effect and the game still stutters. The dual CPUs were never an issue in the past with this game either as i've had it running since November and only the last couple weeks did the stutter start. The only thing that seems to have made a difference so far was verifying the integrity within steam which reduced stutters about 50%. I've uninstalled and reinstalled tonight and it still stutters. 

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Reply #8 March 18, 2016 11:27:39 PM
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Quoting Mercennarius,
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I set the affinity in Windows to only use CPU node 0 and it did not seem to have any effect and the game still stutters. The dual CPUs were never an issue in the past with this game either as i've had it running since November and only the last couple weeks did the stutter start. The only thing that seems to have made a difference so far was verifying the integrity within steam which reduced stutters about 50%. I've uninstalled and reinstalled tonight and it still stutters. 

Yea, there's something else happening. 

Can you post your dxdiag?

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Reply #9 March 19, 2016 9:23:01 AM
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+1 on dxdiag

I would also recommend uninstalling gpu drivers, downloading and installing DDU and cleaning the driver completely in safemode. Reinstall latest driver from AMD website.

 

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Reply #10 March 19, 2016 11:11:28 AM
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Here is my DXDIAG:

 

 

Also I have used DDU several times in safe mode updating to the latest drivers and it makes no difference. Again this only happens in AOTS, my other games all run just fine. Any other suggestions? Thanks!

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Reply #11 March 19, 2016 12:54:41 PM
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Hmm. This is interesting. I wonder if amd's new dives broke something.

try this: go to settings and lower the terrain shading from high to mid and run the bm again.

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Reply #12 March 19, 2016 1:11:15 PM
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Quoting Frogboy,
reply 11

Hmm. This is interesting. I wonder if amd's new dives broke something.

try this: go to settings and lower the terrain shading from high to mid and run the bm again.

 

Ok, I lowered the terrain shading sample from high to mid and it seemed to reduce stutter by a solid 90%! Only times it really stutters now is when the camera is at its highest altitude and there is a lot of units/action going on. Also netted me an extra 9 FPS by just turning down that one setting from high to mid. But I know I used to be able to have everything maxed at 1080P and it didn't stutter like this. Thanks again!

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Reply #13 March 19, 2016 5:42:20 PM
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Have you tried using an older driver?

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Reply #14 March 31, 2016 8:00:05 PM
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So even with the latest "Gold Release" update it is still doing this. But it appears to ONLY do this in DX12 mode. Any help? 

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Reply #15 March 31, 2016 9:09:27 PM
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There have been reports of this with the 16.3.x versions of the AMD drivers. You may want to try rolling back to an older release. Alternatively you can run in DirectX 11 mode for now, until AMD fixes this.

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