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Flamed Again

July 8, 2008 2:28:29 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

I've always gotten into problems with people on the internet so its nothing new I guess, but recently, I've begun to think that this interaction just isn't worth it.

The latest flame occurred at schoolteacher David's [40] Blog. I went there and found a picture of his young son eating from a giant bag of Doritos and I was taken aback, so I commented on how unhealthy I thought that was.

"Come on David... don't let the kid gorge himself on Doritos and stuff. Kids today are starting to look like beach balls, I hope Adrian doesn't end up like that."

Obviously, this was a mistake because David pounded on his chest like a caveman and became extraordinarily defensive.

"Hey TonyR. I hate to correct you (because i know how RIGHT you usually are) but his name is Aidan. And he likes Doritos and stuff. He gets them when he is good. And he's not fat.But, I really appreciate your concern and your tips for raising my son. Please let me know if you have any other child rearing suggestions. How old are your kids?"

Now, I never said the kid was fat... nor did I suggest that Dave couldnt raise his kid any way he wanted to. Although, these accusations that I was meddling was kind of Ironic in a way because he makes his living interjecting himself into the lives of other peoples kids on a daily basis, most likely attempting to indoctrinate them with his far out, left wing beliefs. Psychiatrists call this condition 'Projecting.'

He was also carrying over anger about some innocuous thing I said on the thread prior to the Doritos incident. The whole jab about 'how right' I was came from his absurd suggestion of how the New York Times was somehow fair and balanced because they've recently hired Billy Kristol. This was the exchange.

TonyR said...
lets face it... the NYT isn't all that fair and balanced either.
40 said...
Doesn't Bill Kristol and David Brooks write for the NYTimes?
TonyR said...
Doesn't NPR's Mara Liason, Juan Williams, and Neil Gabler work for FOX?
40 said...
Thanks for proving my point. Not as biased as you think, huh?
TonyR said...
Yes your right as always Dave.
40 said...
I like to refer to it as "correct." Right seems so wrong sometimes.

For him to suggest that the NYT was fair and balanced just because they recently hired Crystal was so absurd, I just humored him like he was a crazy person. Obviously, the people at the top of the NYT hierarchy are overwhelmingly left wing, and they call all the shots, not Kristol. Like I said... absurd.

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Anthony R
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Reply #1 July 8, 2008 8:23:31 AM
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And this bothers you why?


LOL LW. The wonders you could do on a show like I Living Color.

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Reply #2 July 8, 2008 8:31:32 AM
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Get use to it Anthony, people now a days are picky about any kind of criticism good or bad. No one ever wants to admit to being wrong and find it even more insulting to have someone else question them. But as I always see it, if you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear. The truth hurts and injured animals tend to be more dangerous.

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Reply #3 July 8, 2008 10:50:07 AM
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I probably would have responded the same way to your comment.

At some point, people have to actually think about the situation and comment on it, not a generalization.  When you were a kid, did you only eat healthy foods?  Or, did you get a treat now and then, like at the 4th of July FIREWORKS?

Read what you said.  You didn't outright say that you thought he was being a bad parent, but how else is somebody supposed to take "Come on David... don't let the kid gorge himself on Doritos and stuff".  Isn't that implying that he is doing something wrong?

If you don't want people to react like that to you, then don't make knee jerk reaction comments.  Otherwise, grow a thinker skins and let it bounce.

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Reply #4 July 8, 2008 12:10:30 PM
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Its a national holiday, he's having a bag of crisps (chips as you say). You've not done anything wrong as such, just come across extremeley anal.

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Reply #5 July 8, 2008 12:49:04 PM
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1. How did he flame you?

2. What makes you think he needs parenting advice from you?

3. Do you honestly believe that a child eating a mini bag of Doritos on a special occasion outing is "gorging himself" and will end up obese?

If you have never had the opportunity to spend an extended period of time with a young child, you really have no idea what their eating habits are, what is appropriate for them as a food treat, or what it's like trying to keep one fed!

PS - I am projecting on you here because I happen to have children who eat Doritos.
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Reply #6 July 8, 2008 2:31:25 PM
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My kids love Doritos too but limit them to special occacions. I still think some people are too sensitive though. Had someone said that to me I would probably said "true, but it would take more thna one bag to be very harmfult o them and they don't eat it all the time". Doritos in large quantities are bad for kids, and adults due to being junk food. But unless you or your kids eat a large bag once a day, I don't think it's such a big deal. But again, some people should not be so sensitive about comments made to them, even if the comment comes off a bit insulting.

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Reply #7 July 8, 2008 2:49:35 PM
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Anthony was clearly picking on the guy because he doesn't like him (as evidenced by his comments about him, above).

Anthony is also showing himself to be overly sensitive, re: his calling the guy's snarky reply a "FLAME".

Re: Nutrition.

Doritos aren't "bad" for a child so much as they are empty calories. Kid gets full but doesn't get much in the way of nutrients. They aren't super calorie-laden. A snack-size bag has 140 calories and 8 g of fat (I'm impressed with a kid who can finish an entire snack-size bag, btw). The fat content's a little high, but the calories aren't much.

A moderately active child in the 4-8 age range needs 1,400-1,600 calories/day.

FWIW, Doritos are fortified with vitamin E, B6, Thiamin, and Phosphorus.
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Reply #8 July 8, 2008 3:08:36 PM
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Anthony was clearly picking on the guy because he doesn't like him (as evidenced by his comments about him, above).

Anthony is also showing himself to be overly sensitive, re: his calling the guy's snarky reply a "FLAME".


True. I agree.

Re: Nutrition.

Doritos aren't "bad" for a child so much as they are empty calories. Kid gets full but doesn't get much in the way of nutrients. They aren't super calorie-laden. A snack-size bag has 140 calories and 8 g of fat (I'm impressed with a kid who can finish an entire snack-size bag, btw). The fat content's a little high, but the calories aren't much.

A moderately active child in the 4-8 age range needs 1,400-1,600 calories/day.

FWIW, Doritos are fortified with vitamin E, B6, Thiamin, and Phosphorus.


You learn something new everyday. Doritos for dinner kids. J/K LOL

Oh and my kids could go thru a family sized bag like it was empty while watching a movie. Now that is scary.
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Reply #9 July 8, 2008 5:11:52 PM
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I happen to have children who eat Doritos

My daughter loves Doritos.  I let her eat them after dinner for a snack now and then.  I also let her eat other junk food.  At the fireworks this year, she had a snow cone, chips, popcorn, part of an elephant ear (I hope people know what that is)..and a can of pop.  She also has a BMI of 14.  I guess I'm doing something wrong since she eats junk food and is still on the low end of normal weight.  Oh, wait!  I know what I'm doing wrong!  I let her go out and play and swim and play soccer and stuff.  Man, I need to learn.

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Reply #10 July 8, 2008 7:51:40 PM
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Thanks for the feedback. You guys are right... even if the kid was 'gorging himself' (a poor choice of words), it really wasn't any of my business. I was probably being rude and sticking my nose where it didnt belong. Even if this kid is depicted eating five bags of Doritos a day, needs a team of firefighters with the jaws of life to extract him from his home for an emergency gastric bypass I won't interfere or meddle in the future.

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Reply #11 July 9, 2008 2:01:01 PM
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stank-fish


I crack up everytime you write that word.



But really, Anthony, what would you expect a kid to be munching on at at 4th of July fireworks show...raw carrots and hummus? Tofu on a stick?


How's about some celery sticks with blue cheese, some Brussels sprouts and some V8 to push it all down?
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Reply #12 July 9, 2008 2:05:15 PM
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Even if this kid is depicted eating five bags of Doritos a day, needs a team of firefighters with the jaws of life to extract him from his home for an emergency gastric bypass I won't interfere or meddle in the future.


As Morpheus would say: Welcome to the desert of the real.
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Reply #13 July 9, 2008 3:28:00 PM
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Blue cheese can harbor listeria and has 100 calories/8 g fat per ounce. Celery sticks and V8 are high in sodium.

LOL. Kids should stick with eating nutrient paste and run laps all day.

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Reply #14 July 9, 2008 8:29:30 PM
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Gotta admit, your comment was pretty asinine.  Idiotic choice of words all in all.  Strong work.  Way to go.  You are such an example.

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Reply #15 July 9, 2008 9:52:28 PM
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But really, Anthony, what would you expect a kid to be munching on at at 4th of July fireworks show...raw carrots and hummus? Tofu on a stick?

No, I would have gone with Tofu and alfalfa sprouts

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Reply #16 July 10, 2008 10:01:35 AM
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Blue cheese can harbor listeria and has 100 calories/8 g fat per ounce. Celery sticks and V8 are high in sodium.

LOL. Kids should stick with eating nutrient paste and run laps all day.


Dam, busted again. Maybe I should start paying more attention to the nutrition labels. Shame on me.
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Reply #17 July 12, 2008 4:36:30 PM
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Heads up, sometimes when you say something that in YOUR head means one thing, in somebody else's head it means something completely different.  I know, I know it sounds insane doesn't it?  But it doesn't remove it's "truthiness".  I find it a tad bit ironic that you would post a flame about a flame.  Hmmm, doesn't quite make sense.

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Reply #18 July 12, 2008 5:56:34 PM
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Power to the being a total douche, Anthony.

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Reply #19 July 12, 2008 8:24:39 PM
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wow, you guys are still on this... lets just say that after being universally condemned... I get it. I've apologized and have moved on. 

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Reply #20 July 12, 2008 8:50:42 PM
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wow, you guys are still on this... lets just say that after being universally condemned... I get it. I've apologized and have moved on.

Good on ya.  But, you know, if you don't want people to tell you when you have been an idiot, you either 1) shouldn't allow comments, or 2) shouldn't post something on the internet.

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Reply #21 July 12, 2008 9:32:37 PM
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Bluedev,. I'm not sure what your purpose is... if its to rub it in then your coming across as a bigger idiot.  

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Reply #22 July 12, 2008 10:42:20 PM
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What I've learnt is that if you take comment as a hostile one, you would respond in equally hostile way and sometimes blow everything out of proportion. I would think most parents will naturally respond in that way if your initial comment implying about their "unhealthy" kid is untrue. If you had stepped back and admitted you don't know the truth of what's behind the screen, you might have avoided this whole unneeded drama.


just my 2C's.

 

 

 

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Reply #23 July 13, 2008 1:40:23 PM
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Bluedev,. I'm not sure what your purpose is... if its to rub it in then your coming across as a bigger idiot.  

Nope, not trying to rub it in.  Just pointing out that it is a tad silly to whine about people commenting on something you posted.  That little "wow, you guys are still on this" comment just sounds stupid.  People are just doing what you invited them to do: commenting on an article you posted.  Nothing more, nothing less.

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Reply #24 July 13, 2008 4:52:59 PM
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Blue Dev, everyone prior to you has offered constructive critisism, you seem like you want to come here and simply become confrontational by using blunt words like  'stupid' and 'idiot.' This topic has already been resolved no thanks to you.

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Reply #25 July 14, 2008 10:10:08 AM
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you seem like you want to come here and simply become confrontational by using blunt words like 'stupid' and 'idiot.'

Heh, well, I would apologize for using "blunt" words, but, frankly, they fit the situation.  Now I'm just poking because it is fun.  At least I'll admit it, no?

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