If you are AR and your grav well is adjacent to an enemies you can wail them. So if as it usually happens an aggressor retreats to their repair and frig facts you can wail them and take them out

You know, if every faction had an equal number of OP things, than that would help for some measure of balance. 

And not only that, but depending on the nature of the OP things, it would make the races more unique as well. The question is what to give the AL and TL. For the latter, perhaps, a tier 0 tech that halves the cost, and slot usage, of all tactical structures? This would fit in both with the TL lore, and be quite powerful, allowing for two turrets for the price of one for example, even if they take just as long to build as usual.

I just trolled and I said something smart by accident. Should I be proud?

In all my years of playing RTS games, it probably ranks #1 as most difficult thing to balance I've seen. This is because it can be everything from a null factor to game changing depending on the game and map and because it penalizes at the same time as rewards.

Maybe make it kill un-upgraded corvettes, and severely damage everything else.  That way the person can retreat and repair, which buys the person who used Wail enough time to set up a counter-attack, or re-build, as necessary.

-Twi /)

Considering the Eradica's ability can do more damage than that for FAR less cost, I don't think that's wise. I'd agree to it, if you only lost some population off the planet and took no damage. Otherwise that's a massive over nerf. Wail becomes useless. You sacrifice a full Terran planet to... force your enemy to use those Hoshiko's they have with them?

Damage and such should remain around the same, but it should be more fine tuned as to how it can be used. I've seen suggestions for making it either a purely defensive or purely offensive ability - it only affects your own, or only affects hostile owned gravity wells. Personally I'm more in favour of it being aggressive. It becomes harder to set up, and doesn't make you immune to attack, it just makes it easier for you to push into enemy worlds if you spend half an hour waiting around with a terran planet.

Lol...sareth you are such a troll....

Funny story, the other team kept asking me today if I was AR or AL, cause they wanted to know if I had wail....then Reaper sent ~50 scouts to all my planets trying to destroy my culture centers...he didn't kill any....

Well, I think they were trolling me...they were about to quit and when the first one left the game MDed for everyone...

Interestingly, if online player counts are any indication, the game isn't very popular right now, and poor racial balance may be a significant contributing factor.

What part of "send a scout, kill the builders and temple" you people dont understand?

There is Many ways to avoid and neutralize wail.

You have to come to wail, wail cant come to you, this makes it strictly situational, unlike jumping turnip, eat a planet, kostura troll cannon and novalith.

And we all know advent lack the real super weapon. The Porn launcher (culture cannon) is not what i call a super weapon, unless you plan to bore your enemy to death.

I agree that the devs are over nerfing their cool abilities, making them irrelevant, instead of competitive.

This all started back with the Truce Among Rogues nerf.

Now nobody really uses it, as it doesn't give a reasonable advantage for the cost.  I provided a good design for implementing truce among rogues that would ADD to the game, instead of nerfing it into irrelevance.  It wouldn't even take that much work either.

Vasari loyalists still use their starbases to put up a wall, and then they just sit there practically invulnerable building up a fleet. 

As VL against advent all you do is starbase up, sit and wait for a few hours, get your kostura and fleet up and sell a few planets if needbe, scout and disable wail capable planets.

You have a long boring game this way.  Vasari defense is so total that you risk huge amounts just engaging a starbase.