Thank you for the clarification, I wish the developers had explained this to all of the community years ago.

The fact remains that there is/are a/multiple bug(s) causing the issue, so you haven't really done anything to alter the initial question or the initial line of thought.  The question holds firm along its line of reasoning.

Anything that triggers the end result, which in the players mind is AS BAD AS A CRASH TO DESKTOP, is EXTREMELY undesirable.

As a consumer of starclad's product, I find the continued existence of this/these bug(s) to be a continued source of agitation that causes me to lose faith in the Stardock and Ironclad brand names(this agitation goes far into the early days of the game and is not limited to this beta alone).

P.S. since you seem to know so much about the minidumps, please assist me (and the rest of the community) in understanding why the developers have a forced CTD dump file created as part of their game, and how this assists in improving the player experience.

P.P.S.  I have played many games, and i've never seen the likes of a minidump in ANY of them, period.  This game is singularly unique in this aspect of my extensive experience.

To be fair, the minidumps you're getting are likely not the same ones as you got a year ago or even a patch ago. When you're adding new stuff you get new bugs, thats just a law of programming.

So there is almost always some data the devs can request in the event of a crash. Sadly often minidumps alone are not enough to diagnose problems, but they can be a start and help narrow down an issue once a better source of data (developer.exe log, save game that can replicate the issue) becomes available.

you can stab your face multiple times with a knife and have the same result too

sareth. it was a joke. they are joking.  though. its hard to tell which is funnier... the jokes themselves, or the fact that you didnt get them.

I can honestly say with full clarity of memory that I have not experienced a minidump in Sins of a Solar Empire Diplomacy that was not caused by me overdoing the 2 gig limit when enabling mods. I also have not had one with Rebellion's beta so far. This makes me feel that your overreacting to just how serious this is, though I can understand that if this problem has plagued you specifically a great deal, I would find that extremely frustrating if I were in your shoes.

Granted this experience has been only with comp stomps with a friend, but we've done them atleast once a week with games taking usually 10-15 hours. If minidumps were a common issue for the consumer base as a whole, I feel it would have come up atleast once.

Either that or I'm just really lucky.

Are you certain you are not hitting the 2 gig limit in some way?

Edit: I just looked around and saw other posts you have regarding this issue...man you really go something weird going on there. Good luck, bro.

@ doshka

Well i'm a voice because I choose to talk about it.  Most sane people get so fed up they just leave online multiplayer, for good.  I'm one of those rare few who will endure the tragic negative experience of a minidump to get the awesome multiplayer experience.  Staying silent doesn't help us gamers out, in fact if we stay silent on this issue the issue possibly won't get the full attention it deserves and therefore the game suffers.  Its our job as beta testers to scream bloody murder when a CTD of any form occurs.  At least, thats what I always have done with every CTD that i've ever beta tested for 5 other games.  I've helped these games release without CTD issues.  As for diplomacy, I also didn't have minidump issues, it was the most stable version of SOASE that has come out to date.  I'm currently testing the beta, so i'm fulfilling my beta agreement with this thread. 

The current bugs are the worst the game has ever had, to the point where EVERY GAME i've played online has either ended with a desync, or a minidump.  For the first time since the vasari were released I started not being the only one minidumping games.  I actually outlasted the minidump.

Online, in addition to saying "GL, HF"(good luck, have fun) before a match starts, we now say "GL, HF, may the minidump always happen to the other guy".  Its tragic.

@zombie

Heh, I'm sure the developers want to fix them, and are working hard.  I'm sure they are also frustrated because they seemingly had this under control, and now a nasty bug(s) is causing a serious playability issue.  I've got a longer time investment in the game, and i've had hundreds of minidumps over the years while most players have only a few.  So, for me its beyond annoying, I downright hate the bugs causing it. 

Well, I definitely wasn't around when the original game was released, but I did join in with Entrenchment and have quite a few MP games with Entrenchment and Diplomacy (I realize not in the thousands like some of you). I've had my fair share of mini-dumps just when the game was getting good

With Rebellion, I just haven't had any desire to play 4v4 or 5v5's. I've played several 2v2's and 3v3's with Rebellion and had a decent amount of fun. I just have a hard time getting excited to play in the larger games with the exploitable balance problems (IMO) right now despite the mini-dump/desync issues.