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Rebel Factions and AI

October 15, 2011 3:37:44 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Just wondering if you can choose the path that the AI will go down because lets just say my empire is part of the rebel faction, and then I want to set my ally as a rebel(because being allies with the loyalist outside of mutual gains is obscene). Would I be able to set what path my ally will go down.

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Reply #1 October 15, 2011 3:45:56 PM
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Would be a nice feature. I hope the devs pick up on this and set something up, if they haven't considered it already.

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Reply #2 October 15, 2011 3:50:47 PM
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That's a very good question, one that I'd like to know the answer to.

One that I bet we'd all like to know the answer to.

But won't until, at earliest, the Rebellion beta...

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Reply #3 October 15, 2011 7:17:28 PM
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     I was wondering whether you treated an ai with culture pushback,or war, would determine which faction you eventually had as a neighbor. Does anyone know if you choose loyal/rebel if that eliminates the normal ships or they all become loyal or rebel versions ?

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Reply #4 October 16, 2011 10:37:28 AM
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Quoting wbino,
reply 3
Does anyone know if you choose loyal/rebel if that eliminates the normal ships or they all become loyal or rebel versions ?

I wouldn't know for sure, but I think you are going to be stuck with the rebel/loyalist ship types after choosing to research in one of the new tech trees. Being able to build two different types of each ship class might result in your army becoming too overpowered, but who knows what the dev's will do...

 

By the way, I have suggested in some other thread that players should be able to choose which side (Rebel or Loyalist) each AI player would research during the game when starting a new game. This has to be done at the window where you can also set the AI difficulty etcetera. I think a feature like that would really be sweet.

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Reply #5 October 16, 2011 11:13:25 AM
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Quoting Teun-A-Roonius,
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but I think you are going to be stuck with the rebel/loyalist ship types after choosing to research in one of the new tech trees.

The Devs have said that once you start down on a research path you are stuck there.

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Reply #6 October 16, 2011 8:29:21 PM
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One TEC factions Rebel choice is a Loyalist Advent's Ally.

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Reply #7 October 17, 2011 12:24:18 AM
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Quoting boshimi336,
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One TEC factions Rebel choice is a Loyalist Advent's Ally.

 

 

No one is an Advent ally. 

Angry Girl Scouts dont make friends.

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Reply #8 October 17, 2011 12:31:21 AM
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Quoting boshimi336,
reply 6
One TEC factions Rebel choice is a Loyalist Advent's Ally

Quoting -Ue_Carbon,
reply 7
No one is an Advent ally.

Angry Girl Scouts dont make friends.

Yeah, the Vasari rebels and TEC loyalists would make a better pair.

 

 

Further, I advise that the Devs add custom map sharing to Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion.

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Reply #9 October 17, 2011 10:43:35 AM
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Well from what I see it, the advent rebels(Not to sure about there philosophy but they think there is a corruption in the unity) or loyalist(They want all to join the unity or be purged) would make good allies with the vasari rebels(Who want to take other factions along with them) as opposed to the vasari loyalist(who want to leave and let the other races deal with the ancient enemy). The TEC loyalist are almost neutral and the TEC rebels are militant and would rather see all other races die.

 

Quoting -Ue_Carbon,
reply 7



Quoting boshimi336,
reply 6
One TEC factions Rebel choice is a Loyalist Advent's Ally.



 



 

No one is an Advent ally. 

Angry Girl Scouts dont make friends.

 

Well my girlscouts just so happen to have Plasma Cookie Warheads!!

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Reply #10 October 17, 2011 11:08:02 AM
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Quoting MayallCommunion,
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Well my girlscouts just so happen to have Plasma Cookie Warheads!!

 

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Reply #11 October 17, 2011 3:22:19 PM
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Quoting MayallCommunion,
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Well my girlscouts just so happen to have Plasma Cookie Warheads!!

And my space robber barons have nuclear warheads, who will win?

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Reply #12 October 17, 2011 5:24:19 PM
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Quoting AdmiralAckbar42,
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Quoting MayallCommunion,
reply 9
Well my girlscouts just so happen to have Plasma Cookie Warheads!!


And my space robber barons have nuclear warheads, who will win?

 

thats a really tough one.. I mean.. just think of the cookies man..

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Reply #13 October 17, 2011 6:43:27 PM
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Dudes... NEVER EVER bet against the girlscouts!

They will find you...

They will whoop your ass...

Then they will kill you...

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Reply #14 October 17, 2011 7:05:54 PM
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Quoting JA_394,
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Dudes... NEVER EVER bet against the girlscouts!

They will find you...

They will whoop your ass...

Then they will kill you...

 

They got nothing on us Eagle Scouts.

Bring it.

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Reply #15 October 17, 2011 7:27:00 PM
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Oh?

You Eagle Scouts got nothing against us Cops.

You bring it!

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Reply #16 October 17, 2011 11:59:33 PM
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Wait, I'm confused now.

Who are the Cops? The Vasari?

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Reply #17 October 18, 2011 5:19:56 PM
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Uh... In Sins terms, yes.

In terms of Girl Scouts vs. Eagle Scouts vs. Cops, no. Actualy cops. With gunz. And Nightstickz.

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Reply #18 October 18, 2011 7:32:34 PM
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Tell it to this girl...

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Reply #19 October 18, 2011 9:04:57 PM
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NUNS > GirlScouts

-the new Advent Titan?

You probably start as one of the subfactions.  Making research items that disable other research items might too hard.  I'm betting that when you start a map, the player options are 6 instead of 3.  TEC Rebel, TEC Loyalist, etc... ad barfeum... instead of TEC, ADVENT, VASARI and mid-game you pick one item of research and an entire portion of the tech tree is disabled.

7DS did what it could with what was at hand with the EMPIRE Jedi and Sith Holocrons.  If you research the Jedi, you can get defensive stuff and offensive penalties.  If you research the SITH, you can get offensive stuff and defensive penalties.  Would be nice to have Sith path of research disabled if you research Jedi and vice versa.  Hopefully this is something that gets into Rebellion.

-vid shows off the Empire tech tree. 

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