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Reply #26 March 16, 2010 10:55:23 PM
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I made the assumption you knew about Target's policy before siding with it.

I was siding with part of their policy: requiring a certain age.  Not with scanning the card.

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Reply #27 March 17, 2010 12:18:58 AM
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If they carded me, I'd probably take it as a compliment.   Or I'd think they were joking. 

If you looked like Myles, I'm sure they wouldn't card you.  It's not easy being 40,000 years old.  

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Reply #28 March 17, 2010 1:15:20 PM
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Quoting Savyg,
reply 19



Quoting AgentNihilist,
reply 18
If I look of age then I am. If you are not selling me poison then you don't need to know anything else.



I'm sure that would work in some alternate reality where you could always be sure.

To reiterate - Unless you are selling something that can kill me (alchohol, ciggerrettes, Dynamite, perscriptions, guns etc) then the only thing that should matter is if I have money.

Content that is considered offense is subjective, thus personal - If I don't like it I won't buy it. If the objection is parental then its that parents job to control for their and only their child.

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Reply #29 March 17, 2010 2:33:20 PM
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Quoting Nesrie,
reply 25

Quoting Ron Lugge, reply 17
You're an idiot if you think you only "show" Target your ID.


If you read my next line, you'll note that I split my argument into two parts.  Scanning is out of line.  Showing is not.  No matter how old he appears to be.

 

I made the assumption you knew about Target's policy before siding with it. They don't just want to look at your ID, they scan it, and they tell they are required to scan it even those corporate says they can just enter the birthdate. What corporate doesn't tell you is the folks at the register don't actually know how to just enter the birthdate, they only know how to scan it. It wasn't my ID and his choice. I still think it's ridiculous, and I don't see any reason why they need to know your age, sex, weight, height, donor status, driving restrictions and endorsements, your address, photo and what year your record was created just to sell you a video game... all that information they can and probably do pull off that card (except maybe the photo).

 

I don't know what you're talking about, because when I worked at Target we just entered the birthday manually.  If they scan it now, it probably just enters the birthday so a clerk can't enter false information.

 

 

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Savyg
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Reply #30 March 17, 2010 3:29:12 PM
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Quoting AgentNihilist,
reply 28

To reiterate - Unless you are selling something that can kill me (alchohol, ciggerrettes, Dynamite, perscriptions, guns etc) then the only thing that should matter is if I have money.

Content that is considered offense is subjective, thus personal - If I don't like it I won't buy it. If the objection is parental then its that parents job to control for their and only their child.

Tell that to the government.  They're already fighting the entertainment industry in several states over this, and if the stores hadn't done anything they'd already be in our faces.

Unless you really want things to get worse this isn't an issue worth getting angry about.

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Reply #31 March 17, 2010 5:30:43 PM
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Quoting Savyg,
reply 30


Tell that to the government.  They're already fighting the entertainment industry in several states over this, and if the stores hadn't done anything they'd already be in our faces.

Unless you really want things to get worse this isn't an issue worth getting angry about.

If you were actually paying attention to those laws and cases, you would know that even the ones thare are being passed are being shot down in court as unconstitutional. Target IS scanning IDs, not taking information off of them. If their scanner has the ability to read the birthdate off that card, it also has the ability to pull the other information whether or not they choose to store that information and use it.

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Reply #32 March 17, 2010 6:14:24 PM
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Quoting Ron Lugge,
reply 14
Anyone who gets huffy over being asked to show ID is an idiot.  The recommendation is 'mature', which means an age-gate is approrpriate.  Even if you look too old, checking still makes sense simply because some people look older (younger) than they really are, either naturally or through makeup.  And if you do this voluntarily, you can avoid having the government stick it's nose in like it does in Australia and mandate what it does or doesnt' want.  Which, in the case of Australia, results in really stupid rules that keep things from selling.

 

Now, anyone who gets huffy over having to have it scanned because of all the other information on there has a reasonable point.  But that's an extension to the original concern.

When I was 15 I looked like I was fucking 30!

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Reply #33 March 17, 2010 6:18:15 PM
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Quoting synnworld,
reply 32
When I was 15 I looked like I was fucking 30!

Well thats against the law in most places. I mean, I don't care personaly if its like a 20 year old your doing at 14 or 15 but 30 - come on!?!

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Reply #34 March 17, 2010 6:23:48 PM
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Quoting Aractain,
reply 33

Quoting synnworld, reply 32When I was 15 I looked like I was fucking 30!
Well thats against the law in most places. I mean, I don't care personaly if its like a 20 year old your doing at 14 or 15 but 30 - come on!?!
Wait how is it against the law to naturally look older then you really were?

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Reply #35 March 17, 2010 6:30:37 PM
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Quoting synnworld,
reply 34

Quoting Aractain, reply 33
Quoting synnworld, reply 32When I was 15 I looked like I was fucking 30!
Well thats against the law in most places. I mean, I don't care personaly if its like a 20 year old your doing at 14 or 15 but 30 - come on!?!Wait how is it against the law to naturally look older then you really were?
Sarchasm ftw! 

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Reply #36 March 17, 2010 6:37:24 PM
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Quoting Ron Lugge,
reply 35

Quoting synnworld, reply 34
Quoting Aractain, reply 33
Quoting synnworld, reply 32When I was 15 I looked like I was fucking 30!
Well thats against the law in most places. I mean, I don't care personaly if its like a 20 year old your doing at 14 or 15 but 30 - come on!?!Wait how is it against the law to naturally look older then you really were?Sarchasm ftw! 

Yea I see that now, and no one said you have to believe me; its my life after all.

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Reply #37 March 18, 2010 3:46:31 AM
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Quoting Nesrie,
reply 31

If you were actually paying attention to those laws and cases, you would know that even the ones thare are being passed are being shot down in court as unconstitutional. Target IS scanning IDs, not taking information off of them. If their scanner has the ability to read the birthdate off that card, it also has the ability to pull the other information whether or not they choose to store that information and use it.

Yes, I was.  Yes, they are.  For now.

If the ESRB and merchants were not doing anything to keep public opinion up, some would most likely pass.

I don't know or really care what Target does, since I don't shop there.

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Reply #38 March 18, 2010 4:16:47 AM
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Quoting Savyg,
reply 37



Yes, I was.  Yes, they are.  For now.

If the ESRB and merchants were not doing anything to keep public opinion up, some would most likely pass.

I don't know or really care what Target does, since I don't shop there.

That's a pretty self-centric philosophy you have going there.

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Savyg
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Reply #39 March 18, 2010 4:21:17 AM
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Yes...yes it is.  There are certainly issues I feel strongly about that don't affect me, but not in the realms of technology or gaming.

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Reply #40 March 18, 2010 5:01:45 AM
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I should start list of things Target Scans ID for, next on the list, canned air. I can't wait for Air Wick and Lysol to join the ranks. Soon we'll have our ID's scanned for romance novels, junks food, and anything else we need to be saved from.

 

http://consumerist.com/2010/03/target-wants-to-see-id-for-canned-air.html

 

 

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Savyg
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Reply #41 March 18, 2010 5:51:14 AM
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I should actually say it's more apathetic than self-centric.

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