u do know that  that is ur point off view and that u dont have any mana steal items

iddiot  go away  we dont need someone say well that wont work  espically when there wrong

yawns idiots these days get stupider

yes i am english  and not really you moron

I won't say any Demigods are overpowered, but I do think Rook and UB might be underpowered:

I think Unclean Beast is too weak against generals (I guess I don't have a great solution for this).

I think that Rook is overall too weak: while he can protect a position very well, I think that he has a very tough time capturing flags or killing other Demigods.  Maybe Rook's just not my character, but right now, I pretty much never use him.

As for Torchbearer, I think his nukes are already very powerful, and since they have a huge range and an almost nonexistant cooldown, I really think he is a good character.  I don't think there is any problem with Fire Torchbearer.

Though I do think Ice Torchbearer could use a boost.  Ice Torchbearer has a lot of cool debuffs, but there are other Demigods with good debuffs and good damage, and I don't think he's quite up to par.

The TB in ice form is not ment to be a solo class, emporing him would make him too crucial in larger games like 5v5s, UB is fine. I agree that the rook is a little weak because he can never make it past EG without his towers, he has a great late game build but it can never be used because he would be to worthless in the begining of the game. Alot of people think that erebus is overpowered but i disagree. Erebus needs a second look at his final rank of "mist" the increase of hp doesnt effect him because he is invulnerable and he does not regen HP while in mist (which would be very overpowered) i normally only get mist to level 1 to help escape and cure myself so my opinion on making mana cost decreased for mist at lower levels would be invalid. the only problem i see with erebus (other than bugs) is that poison blood isnt very usefull untill you get the vamprism, as far as im concern its a waste of 2 skill points but the 3rd makes up for it. I think that QoTs EARLIER levels of her absorbtion shield should have an increased cooldown, also make it so that the absorb spell iteself does not wear off without anything but the proper damage applied. perhaps the same for the rooks towers except a permanent increased cooldown. and then increase the rooks normal melee damage so that he does not feel obligated to mass towers every time the CD time expires. I also think that fortresses and citadels attack range should be increased (especially fortresses) so that the infamous Regulus can only outrange the fortresses attack at its max level of his scope ability. (thus slightly increasing the cast-range of QoTs uproot for balance).

And one more thing! dont buff TBs fire abilites for the later levels, if you think fire TB sucks try this.(this may not make sense to anyone but try the build "circle of flame+fire aura+attribute bonuses. Then get mad crit items and lifesteal items and see if you still think its a dumb idea when u outmelee oak and rook at the same time).

Sniper can be a challange but all you have to do is outflank him with ur circle of fire once and hes dead be4 he realizes which directing hes supposed to run. fireball is good for the long range with this build and if u dont get it u will be missing a few kills u could normally get, but u will gain much more tactical advantages because of your outragous dps even without circle of fire running itself dry (and getting your war rank 3 gold upgrade before your enemies do is indeed a huge advatage). Ive seen regulus run into my towers to escape from me when i do this

u cant out flank a good one  and a dps build would own u

If you're a general or have a general on the team they can send a minion through the mine field to clear it.  If your team is all assasins then you're doing it wrong

In terms of EB, I think that his bite should have the snare removed, that is all.

The problem is that if you go in against him, you either win or die, there is no escape, the snare is very strong early game. I think that is where people go wrong.

I can skirmish against EB, even as Rook in the early game, but it is pointless going in full against him, because if you are getting beaten he will snare you with bite, strip your armour and kill you before you can run out. If he gets low then off he runs.

That is where a lot of the OP comes from, is that people don't skirmish, they just go all in, then realise they can't run out, as with most DGs.

I don't think he is massively OP. He is still the most dangerous DG at the moment.

or switch to ice which can

Paper is fine but nerf rock. 

Yours truely, Siccors.