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Does anyone remember DragonLance?

On the C64?

November 16, 2008 6:08:25 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums

The more I think about this game the more I can see it taking the direction of the old DL titles. When I was a teen those SSI DL games had to be about my favorite titles for that platform.

There was one in particular, that I vaguely remember which used shields to represent army for movement but that is about all I can remember of it. I thought it was the best. Those titles were on the 5.25 disks. Which were a big huge step up from the tape based and cartridge games I have for my prior systems the Odyssey and the TI99a.

Anyway I did some research but could find any images that triggered any memories but I did find a sweet ass retro article. If you are interested in some all but forgotten gaming history give it a read. All you young pups out there should read it to try to develop a real appreciation for what you have now. The article can be read here.

 

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Reply #1 November 16, 2008 6:15:04 PM
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Yeah these games were awesome, I loved Dragonstrike, Eyes of the Beholder and Ravenloft... Damn it was looking better in my memories...

 

 

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Reply #2 November 16, 2008 6:47:11 PM
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I remember a great many of them, but I've never played most of them, partly due to my age ('86, here) and partly due to the fact that I'm not a native english speaker (Sweden) and even though there's nothing wrong with my linguistics, it means I couldn't play these when I was 7 or 8, since I had yet to learn to read -any- language properly.

I don't think I ever played Dragonlance, but I remember Eye of the Beholder fondly, as one of the greatest games ever.
I didn't have any idea that there was a previous game named Neverwinter Nights, either. Although that's not strange, since it was over AOL. You learn something new every day, just like my dad taught me to.

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Reply #3 November 16, 2008 6:59:17 PM
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I'm a member of the Gerontocracy over at GC2, born at the tail end of 1964. This thread frightens and confuses me because when I see the word "Dragonlance," I feel a great flare of frustration because I got partway through the real thing with a D&D crew before the problem of being grownups made us have to ditch the attempt at finishing the story. I was not one of the players who suffered from spouses and children, and the gametime schedule didn't interfere with my earning money. And no computer anything so far could have come close to filling that unmet "need" of mine. Frakkin' real world. Stupid kids clickety-clicking at their so-called RPGs...

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Reply #4 November 16, 2008 11:49:37 PM
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Quoting GW Swicord,
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I'm a member of the Gerontocracy over at GC2, born at the tail end of 1964. This thread frightens and confuses me because when I see the word "Dragonlance," I feel a great flare of frustration because I got partway through the real thing with a D&D crew before the problem of being grownups made us have to ditch the attempt at finishing the story. I was not one of the players who suffered from spouses and children, and the gametime schedule didn't interfere with my earning money. And no computer anything so far could have come close to filling that unmet "need" of mine. Frakkin' real world. Stupid kids clickety-clicking at their so-called RPGs...

I feel your pain - truly. I have been in that cold dark place. Sometimes I think I never left it to be honest.

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Reply #5 November 17, 2008 3:30:25 AM
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Quoting GW Swicord,
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I'm a member of the Gerontocracy over at GC2, born at the tail end of 1964. This thread frightens and confuses me because when I see the word "Dragonlance," I feel a great flare of frustration because I got partway through the real thing with a D&D crew before the problem of being grownups made us have to ditch the attempt at finishing the story. I was not one of the players who suffered from spouses and children, and the gametime schedule didn't interfere with my earning money. And no computer anything so far could have come close to filling that unmet "need" of mine. Frakkin' real world. Stupid kids clickety-clicking at their so-called RPGs...
I don't have friends. I've always wanted to play PnP RPG, but never had the opportunity. I've even got a whole bunch of books, from Warhammer (Fantasy & 40k both), to Vampire, to all DnD. In .pdf's, at least.

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Reply #6 November 17, 2008 10:19:09 AM
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I'm still irked that my high school's DnD club met the one day I couldn't go. Really really annoying... I also wanted to try Dark Heresy, but the guy who had the books graduated before we got a campaign together.

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Reply #7 November 17, 2008 4:00:19 PM
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Sorry, accidental dp, been a while since that happened.

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Reply #8 November 17, 2008 4:46:07 PM
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xthetenth.. what are you doing?
Why did you do a double-post with the exact same text, roughly 6 hours after your previous one?

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Reply #9 November 17, 2008 5:12:33 PM
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He is mad ! Kill him !

have only heard of dragon lance and tried D&D in my youth.. but nowadays.. no one to play with.. So i game and talk on forums..

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Reply #10 November 18, 2008 8:34:34 AM
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Why did you do a double-post with the exact same text, roughly 6 hours after your previous one?

Because I'm a terrible terrible person. No, actually I have no idea, user error with a side of odd computer screwup and a spotty connection. I think when I posted it acted up and stayed as if it didn't, so when I went back a few hours later I went "Hey! why didn't my computer post that!" Sorry, need more sleep (last week of school, too tired to think).

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Reply #11 November 18, 2008 10:31:16 AM
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My very first game I played with on my tandy 16 was Champion's of Krynn. It was botchy and graphics were bad but I loved the game. I also still have eyes of the Beholder the box and the hintbook. Never wanted to get rid of it. It was way cool.

 

I guess at 34 I am getting old

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Reply #12 November 18, 2008 11:32:37 AM
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Quoting GW Swicord,
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I'm a member of the Gerontocracy over at GC2, born at the tail end of 1964. This thread frightens and confuses me because when I see the word "Dragonlance," I feel a great flare of frustration because I got partway through the real thing with a D&D crew before the problem of being grownups made us have to ditch the attempt at finishing the story. I was not one of the players who suffered from spouses and children, and the gametime schedule didn't interfere with my earning money. And no computer anything so far could have come close to filling that unmet "need" of mine. Frakkin' real world. Stupid kids clickety-clicking at their so-called RPGs...

Ahh, a great year to be born! I remember the '60s even. (well not much..)

Our gaming group went through all the classics of D&D, (including DL). Then university, work, friends moving away all tore away the fabric of our gaming group.

No, CRPG don't come close to the 'real' thing of having a group of friends sitting around a table taking on grand adventures. A dying breed..

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Reply #13 November 18, 2008 2:16:46 PM
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Quoting Solam,
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My very first game I played with on my tandy 16 was Champion's of Krynn. It was botchy and graphics were bad but I loved the game. I also still have eyes of the Beholder the box and the hintbook. Never wanted to get rid of it. It was way cool.

I guess at 34 I am getting old

I remember that title. It had issues but was fun nonetheless. If EWoM does not take a DL approach in flavor I would like to see SD go after a license for it proper. DL had as big huge fan base. Oh yeah, don’t think of yourself as getting old. Think of it as getting more refined.

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Reply #14 November 18, 2008 3:18:29 PM
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That's a good idea., more refined I like that 

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Reply #15 November 18, 2008 3:20:46 PM
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Now THAT brings back memories!  Dark nights with mates huddled around a pencil drawn map on a ripped out exercise book, with home made unit markers of paper stickytaped to toothpicks in bluetack!

I still have my d20 and d50. 

Oh, and all the computer games were great too, but with none of the glory of true dice-rattling action. 

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Reply #16 November 19, 2008 5:13:01 PM
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Quoting Solam,
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I guess at 34 I am getting old

If you're still playing GC2, you should ditch those hairball-hurling Kzinti and come home to the Gerontocrats. We're such funky old geezers that our emporer is in semi-retirement--on account of the real world getting busy with grownup crap (he had a big career boost this year and is actually self-disciplined enough to cut back on his gaming time, the rotter).

 

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Reply #17 November 20, 2008 10:08:48 PM
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Quoting Solam,
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I guess at 34 I am getting old

 

Gah, come on! Now I'm not only "getting a bit fatty" I'm also "old"?

 

Dragonlance was (for me) more about the books and less about the RPG (never had the chance to play it). I remember my first tabletop session must have been in... uh... 1985. Gah, I AM old!

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Reply #18 November 21, 2008 12:49:11 AM
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For the old timers here.

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Reply #19 December 1, 2008 3:05:17 PM
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Nostalgia, bittersweet nostalgia. We used to team up in a great gaming group, playing D&D until 6 in the morning. People left with their eyes still glittering from seeing far-off dreamscapes ... Those were the days, before people "grew up" and started to work / study, moved away. Do teens today even know about real RPGs? Nowadays it's too easy just to switch on your PC and get a fantasy shot, but it's not at all the same thing.

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Reply #20 December 2, 2008 10:12:32 AM
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Nostalgia, bittersweet nostalgia. We used to team up in a great gaming group, playing D&D until 6 in the morning. People left with their eyes still glittering from seeing far-off dreamscapes ... Those were the days, before people "grew up" and started to work / study, moved away. Do teens today even know about real RPGs? Nowadays it's too easy just to switch on your PC and get a fantasy shot, but it's not at all the same thing.

I think you'll appriciate this....

Im running a 11 year (realtime) Birthright Campaign. 6 players all late 20-30 somethings (some married with kids lolol). Its still the best entertainment around for old Rpers like ourselves. Nothing beats it. Beers, chatting and laughter...great.

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Reply #21 December 2, 2008 10:21:00 AM
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Quoting the Gorgon,
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Nostalgia, bittersweet nostalgia. We used to team up in a great gaming group, playing D&D until 6 in the morning. People left with their eyes still glittering from seeing far-off dreamscapes ... Those were the days, before people "grew up" and started to work / study, moved away. Do teens today even know about real RPGs? Nowadays it's too easy just to switch on your PC and get a fantasy shot, but it's not at all the same thing.

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Reply #22 August 21, 2010 3:53:11 AM
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Through his great powers of Necromancy, the Dark Lord Raven Xavier commands this Ancient Post to Rise and Live Again!!! Mwhahahaha!!!

Dragonlance, yeap, there's a Mod being made for that you know

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Reply #23 August 21, 2010 4:27:13 AM
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I always wanted to try that campaign out, but didn't have $ when it came out or the group to support it.  I do agree with several posters here that kids today don't know what their missing from classic RPGs and table top mini games like Battletech.  Today it's all card games or 8-10 hour video games.  Even the video games today have so little creativity and imagination anymore.  Thank GOD for Stardock because Elemental appears to be exactly what I have been missing for years now in a PC game.

Ain't that the truth!!! New games just don't have that same "Magic" (excuse the pun) that old school PC games and Table-top games and Pen and Paper D&D have. New games just can't match the depth and they don't require their players to think anymore. It's all about flashy effects and action and instant gratification. Even "Dragon Age: Origins", though it was incredibly cool for a new school RPG, still has Nothing on the "Baldur's Gate" PC games. Even if I do every side quest in DA:O and kill every monster I can find and buy every weapon and armor set in the game, even with all the DLC, it doesn't come close to the content and variation put into the first "Baldur's Gate" even though both games were made by companies comprised of mostly the same exact people. Did those people change? Probably not that much. So what changed? The market. The amounts of Money involved, both in making the game and in expected returns. The fame of the people making it. Somehow all of these factors turn out to make games that are mostly only made to make a quick buck. Bring me back my Old School PC games!!! Bring me back Games With Depth!!! Thank the Gods we still have Stardock making games the Old School Way!!!!!

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Reply #24 August 21, 2010 9:01:08 AM
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For the OP, a war game that used sheilds to mark the units, that sounds like War of the Lance. Fond old memories from me for that game. I know that if i call my friend this second and cry 'Searching for Naval engagements' we will both raise our shirts and expose much larger bellys like we did 20 years ago playing that game.

Other greats I seem to recall was Champions of Krynn, Deathknights of Krynn, and Darkqueen of Krynn (Taladas +100), Heroes of the Lance and Champions of the Lance (Maybe, it was the Heroes sequal to Pax tharkus, I've used the cheatbook maps for adventures in 3 Editions of D&D). 

Back then games, and movies, had to have good plot because they didn't have special effects.

If anyone makes a mod with some method for making Draconians with Empire Death Magic on Dragon Eggs... Love.

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Reply #25 August 21, 2010 2:56:45 PM
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Where there actually games on Dragonlance?

I just read the original 3 books by Weiss and Hickman which were translated in dutch last year (25 years later??)

I actually read books 7-9 (after the cataclysm with Tasslehoff travelling forward in time) about 8 years ago wondering what they were all talking about because i never had the oppurtinity to read the earlier books.

The 4th book (legends) just came out and i read that too.

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