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Upstaged by Sarah

September 15, 2008 12:42:14 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

 

Now we know why Obama didn't choose Hillary as a running mate. It had nothing to do with her baggage or husband, but rather a premonition of  the development of the Sarah syndrome stealing the spotlight from McCain. It reminds me of JFK beginning joint appearances  with his wife something like: "Pardon my intrusion; I know you're here to see Jackie." Of course, subliminally JFK knew she was a tremendous asset--certainly more so than having Johnson at his elbow. I rather doubt McCain would have chanced Palin had Obama chosen Clinton.

I hate to admit it but McCain shows confidence in himself despite his partner's dramatic space invasion. Obama on the other hand would have been wary with Hillary at his side.

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Reply #1 September 15, 2008 8:21:11 AM
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Is Sarah upstaging McCain?  Or is it the media and the democrats that are doing it?  Sarah would be no more than a foot note (much like Geraldine Ferraro) if it were not for the intense media attention.  Some of it because she is a woman, but most seems to be pre-emptive.  They aer trying to discredit her, when ignoring her would be much more effective.

But McCain is handling it well.  For while they concentrate on Palin, he is skating by.  Where are the sharks critical of his stands, flip flops on those stands, his record of the past 20 years?  I so want to see a good article that basically nails him for his faults, but sadly all I see is Sarah and Obama.  Biden and McCain are the invisible candidates right now.

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Reply #2 September 15, 2008 8:56:12 AM
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I hate to admit it but McCain shows confidence in himself despite his partner's dramatic space invasion. Obama on the other hand would have been wary with Hillary at his side.

Apart from what DrGuy said, I, again, have to ask just how much do you Democrats truly believe in Obama? Do you not believe he is the one, the "Jesus" of today's world, the salvation of this nation, what most Americans want? Or is he really just another over-hyped politician that can't even stand against a simply Governor like Sarah Palin (who's running for VP BTW, not President) let alone a real politician like Hillary Clinton? Not to mention that by your own admission above, McCain seems to have more of what it takes to be a great leader since he "shows more confidence in himself dispite his partners dramatic space invasion" while "Obama on the other hand would have been wary of Hillary at his side".

It seems you and Biden have something in common, neither of you are trusting Obama anymore.

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Reply #3 September 15, 2008 9:28:11 AM
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neither of you are trusting Obama anymore.

I dont know that Stevendedalus ever did.  I think he was more a Hillary backer than Obama.  Like many republicans, he is just "settling" for the nominee.

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Reply #4 September 15, 2008 3:10:36 PM
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Well, if Obama feared being upstaged by a running mate, he certainly picked the right one. :~D

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Reply #5 September 15, 2008 4:04:28 PM
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Well, if Obama feared being upstaged by a running mate, he certainly picked the right one. :~D

Eh, just wait until Biden starts saying Hillary would be a better presidential nominee as well.

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Reply #6 September 15, 2008 8:44:33 PM
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Eh, just wait until Biden starts saying Hillary would be a better presidential nominee as well.

 

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Reply #7 September 17, 2008 5:15:56 PM
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Eh, just wait until Biden starts saying Hillary would be a better presidential nominee as well.
I thought he already did! Btw, Hillary is in a much safer position right now.

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Reply #8 September 17, 2008 5:21:59 PM
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do you Democrats truly believe in Obama? Do you not believe he is the one, the "Jesus" of today's world, the salvation of this nation, what most Americans want?
Wise ass!   "My own admission" also implies that Hillary would have been a towering strength and therefore Obama had cause to be wary; I don't think McCain feels that way about Sarah. 

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Reply #9 September 17, 2008 5:38:22 PM
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I thought he already did! Btw, Hillary is in a much safer position right now.

If he did I missed it.  I know he said VP.

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Reply #10 September 17, 2008 11:50:36 PM
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I can't help but be reminded of the B'rer Rabbit story where he pleads 'Please don't throw me in that briar patch!'

Seems almost as if McCain put out the bait and the Media and Dems couldn't wait to throw Palin 'in the briar patch'.

Now that things have gotten bloody, Obama has been forced into the position of 'taking off his gloves' .. what is this? .. about the second or third time he has said that? .. and getting into that old time, knock down, drag out, mud-slinging politics which he obviously had sought to avoid as part of his 'Change' theme...

... a part at which he seems uncomfortable; understandable given that it clashes with the 'new type of politician' image he had worked so hard to cultivate during the primaries.

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Reply #11 September 19, 2008 3:59:05 AM
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that old time, knock down, drag out, mud-slinging politics which he obviously had sought to avoid

It must take him back to his "community organizer" days. ;~D

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Reply #12 September 23, 2008 2:19:34 AM
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It must take him back to his "community organizer" days. ;~D
You and the nation's mayor are bedfellows of sarcasm.

If he did I missed it. I know he said VP
You're right; he was talking about VP.

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Reply #13 September 24, 2008 9:43:17 PM
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Here in Australia the name McCain seems closer associated with potato chips and frozen foods.

At the start of all this it seemed so clear Obama was going to win, then all of a sudden I looked up and it has now turned into a closer race.

Which brings me back to my chip story, the tag line for McCain foods in australia is "Ahhh McCain, you've done it again" and hence whenever funky things the whole Sarah thing shows up that seems to level the field more, that line always plays in my head

 

Just thought I'd share my amusement

 

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Reply #14 October 4, 2008 4:24:02 PM
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Like chips, betcha can't have enough of Sarah.   

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