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The Vocem Chart Locator of American Politics

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September 1, 2004 1:51:58 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
Some told me about The Vocem Chart Locator of American Politics, and I found it so interesting(though a little crude in implementation) that I thought I would share it with everyone here.

If you don't know what a Vocem chart is(and I didn't when I first heard about this quiz), it is a political chart that has a third dimension to it, so it can make differentiations based on fiscal, corporate and cultural issues, so instead of having a line(2 general areas) or a square(4 general areas) as a reflection of your political spectrum, a Vocem chart is more like a cube with 8 regions, four in the front and four in the back. A longer, and better thought-out explanation of this concept is available here.

The quiz is 25 questions, and it gives how closely you fit into one of the 8 squares. My own results were as follows.

1: Liberal (100%) Big surprise
2: New Labour (75%)
3: Anarcho-syndicalist (73%)
4: Totalitarian (63%)
5: Libertarian (46%)
6: Traditional Societies (44%)
7: Authoritarian (35%)
8: Conservative (13%)

And here is the breakdown of where those categories would appear on the cube:

Back bottom right: conservative
Back top right: authoritarian
Front bottom right: the pattern of traditional societies (those without social and technological change with each generation)
Front top right: totalitarian
Back bottom left: libertarian
Back top left: New Labour
Front bottom left: anarcho-syndicalist
Front top left: liberal

Anyway, I hope you enjoy this as much as I did.
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Reply #1 September 1, 2004 2:24:43 PM
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Rank Item Percent
1: Liberal (100%)
2: Anarcho-syndicalist (88%)
3: New Labour (72%)
4: Totalitarian (67%)
5: Libertarian (59%)
6: Traditional Societies (58%)
7: Authoritarian (37%)
8: Conservative (25%)

Hmm
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Reply #2 September 1, 2004 3:26:15 PM
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1: Traditional Societies (100%)
2: Anarcho-syndicalist (97%)
3: Libertarian (92%)
4: Liberal (88%)
5: New Labour (83%)
6: Totalitarian (81%)
7: Conservative (80%)
8: Authoritarian (70%)

Very interesting. I like how they managed to squeeze in important answers that are usually lacking in these types of tests. Now I'm going to have to look up "Anarcho-Syndicalist".
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Reply #3 September 1, 2004 3:38:31 PM
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1: Traditional Societies (100%)
2: Conservative (97%)
3: Libertarian (85%)
4: Anarcho-syndicalist (78%)
5: Authoritarian (52%)
6: Totalitarian (51%)
7: New Labour (40%)
8: Liberal (33%)

This test was obviously written by a liberal. As a conservative there were several questions where neither choice was accurate...for example, I don't know many people who would endorse the idea of having the government promote a particular religion; but I know a lot of people who endorse the idea of the gov't promoting Christian VALUES. There's a big difference.
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Reply #4 September 1, 2004 3:55:43 PM
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Hmm

1: Libertarian (100%)
2: New Labour (98%)
3: Anarcho-syndicalist (92%)
4: Liberal (87%)
5: Conservative (43%)
6: Traditional Societies (42%)
7: Authoritarian (40%)
8: Totalitarian (33%)

I'm certainly libertarian, new labour, and liberal.

Then I went to dictionary.com and found out that syndicalism is "a radical political movement that advocates bringing industry and government under the control of federations of labor unions by the use of direct action, such as general strikes and sabotage."

Uh, no.
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Reply #5 September 1, 2004 4:01:27 PM
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Thanx for the defn. Vincible. Yes, I thought there were some questions that were a bit...er skewed. I certainly have a different defn. of a conservative then the author of the quiz.
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Reply #6 September 1, 2004 5:06:33 PM
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1: Liberal (100%)
2: Anarcho-syndicalist (96%)
3: New Labour (68%)
4: Libertarian (62%)
5: Traditional Societies (53%)
6: Totalitarian (50%)
7: Authoritarian (14%)
8: Conservative (12%)

Well, I'm definitely liberal, but some of these results are... a bit odd. And not entirely how I would describe myself.

~Molly
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Reply #7 September 1, 2004 5:33:02 PM
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1: Liberal (100%)
2: Anarcho-syndicalist (84%)
3: New Labour (70%)
4: Totalitarian (65%)
5: Libertarian (52%)
6: Traditional Societies (51%)
7: Authoritarian (29%)
8: Conservative (10%)

Online Quiz's are always correct!

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Reply #8 September 1, 2004 5:56:27 PM
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Yes, I thought there were some questions that were a bit...er skewed. I certainly have a different defn. of a conservative then the author of the quiz.


That's why I used the word "Crude" when describing it. I am sure a better version will be along soon. But for a short quiz, it doesn't do a bad job of demonstrating the principle of a three-dimensional system.

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Reply #9 September 1, 2004 6:00:34 PM
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I'd say it was quite skewed, even for a fairly liberal person like me, especially regarding the art question the most liberal choice was all art should be supported then came pornography should be outlawed. Where did that come from? Then it was no art should be supported. Very skewed but intresting.
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Reply #10 September 1, 2004 7:51:51 PM
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1: Anarcho-syndicalist  (100%)
2: Libertarian  (98%)
3: Traditional Societies  (88%)
4: Conservative  (77%)
5: Liberal  (70%)
6: New Labour  (68%)
7: Totalitarian  (56%)
8: Authoritarian  (47%)
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Reply #11 September 1, 2004 8:00:02 PM
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I agree it's kind of crude but I think there are ways to make the data kind of make sense for our purposes.

Imagine a scale.  Take your lieral percentage and conservative percentage and put them on each scale. That will tell you how liberal or conservative you are.

So if you are 90% liberal and 30% conservative, you're mostly liberal and vice versa. 

If I were modeling this for a game I would take the conservative value and subtract the liberal value.  At 0 you're an "independent". Negative values would be liberal and positive values conservative.  If your net value is >67 or <-67 you're probably close to a "radical" conservative/liberal.

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Reply #12 September 1, 2004 8:08:42 PM
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GAH! I tried to copy/paste my results, but it mucked up!

Anyway, I came up 100% Libertarian. Seriously.
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Reply #13 September 1, 2004 8:14:25 PM
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I believe you Gideon
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Reply #14 September 1, 2004 8:49:42 PM
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historyishere: Interesting post.

Here are my results:

1: Liberal (100%)
2: Totalitarian (86%)
3: Anarcho-syndicalist (81%)
4: Traditional Societies (68%)
5: New Labour (63%)
6: Authoritarian (45%)
7: Libertarian (44%)
8: Conservative (26%)

he he he . . . I never thought of myself as a liberal per se . . . hmmm . . . guess I was wrong, huh?
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Reply #15 September 1, 2004 8:55:50 PM
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1: Anarcho-syndicalist (100%)
2: Liberal (97%)
3: Libertarian (73%)
4: New Labour (73%)
5: Traditional Societies (72%)
6: Totalitarian (65%)
7: Conservative (36%)
8: Authoritarian (34%)
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Reply #16 September 1, 2004 9:40:18 PM
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Here is an Australian Selector for the Aussies amongst us...

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Reply #17 September 1, 2004 9:41:18 PM
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After reading the first couple of questions and really not know where I stood I decided I might be better off with an Australian quiz
Link
It's by no means 3 dimensional and doesn't give as many results but was interesting none the less.

1) Australian Democrats
2) Labor Party
3) The Greens
4) Liberal Party
5) National Party
6 One Nation

I went back and did the American quiz - asking questions on msn about things I didn't understand.

1: Totalitarian (100%)
2: Liberal (94%)
3: Authoritarian (80%)
4: New Labour (75%)
5: Traditional Societies (48%)
6: Anarcho-syndicalist (47%)
7: Conservative (39%)
8: Libertarian (27%)

I wonder how that correlates with the other quiz I did?
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Reply #18 September 1, 2004 9:46:53 PM
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Here's mine, which are pretty much what I expected:

Rank Item Percent
1: Anarcho-syndicalist (100%)
2: Libertarian (95%)
3: Traditional Societies (78%)
4: Conservative (70%)
5: Liberal (56%)
6: New Labour (55%)
7: Totalitarian (34%)
8: Authoritarian (28%)

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Reply #19 September 1, 2004 9:49:48 PM
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Muggaz posted while I was typing.

Meanwhile here's a British one Link
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Reply #20 September 1, 2004 10:27:16 PM
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Anyone figured out what the quiz writer means by "Anarcho-syndicalist?" I mean, we don't all want to violently overthrow the government, do we?
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Reply #21 September 1, 2004 10:42:00 PM
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Vincible :From an article linked to the explanation of the Vocem Chart
Left, lower, anterior: Personal freedom, elimination of services such as welfare, social security and student money from the government, and anti-corporate ideology. This is the combination of anarcho-syndicalism. It's what many people call the "left-libertarians". More liberal than the libertarians, anarcho-syndialists are anti-government, but they find business to be behaving in too oppressive and authoritarian a manner. Your stereotypical anti-corporate, anti-WTO, anti-anything protestors.


Now, from another quiz I remember taking a long time ago, the person they put with a point of view like that was Noam Chomsky.
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Reply #22 September 1, 2004 11:06:21 PM
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One interesting thing, neither good nor bad, is that the liberals on this site tend to be WAY liberal whereas most of the conservatives on this site (i.e. the vocal ones) tend to be just a little right.  Though, I suspect we all know what Marvin C would score on such a test.
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Reply #23 September 1, 2004 11:14:19 PM
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One interesting thing, neither good nor bad, is that the liberals on this site tend to be WAY liberal whereas most of the conservatives on this site (i.e. the vocal ones) tend to be just a little right. Though, I suspect we all know what Marvin C would score on such a test.


Another interesting note I have found is the vast majority who report their scores that aren't way left come up with libertarian percentages of 50% or higher. Interesting to note, to say the least.
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Reply #24 September 1, 2004 11:36:56 PM
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Well, I'm a liberal, and I agree with much of the Libertarian platform myself... though not enough by the way the quiz is skewed.
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Reply #25 September 2, 2004 12:12:18 AM
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1: Totalitarian (100%)
2: Authoritarian (94%)
3: Conservative (94%)
4: Traditional Societies (89%)
5: Anarcho-syndicalist (72%)
6: Liberal (72%)
7: Libertarian (56%)
8: New Labour (56%)

I guess this makes me a "Jack Booted Thug". notsure:

The sad thing is the wording of some of the questions didn't help either.:
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