If you are on the fence between EVE and SINS, you have to watch this video. it will summarize the EVE experience for you in 3 minutes

WATCH THIS

I agree, more detailed ships would be a nice bonus. but im not greedy, SINS has delivered a game that people have been dreaming to have for years.. and i thank it for that.. its about time this genre of games gets redefined and re-awoken. too many action games in the market - get people to build their logic skills again

Funny thing since i was thinking the same

Can you imagine Sins with Eve type of gfx

But i also agree with other posters - Sins is indeed game i was waiting for for years while gfx although not exactly top notch are rather charming too...

Saying that - Sins2 / Expansion Pack / Sequel of some sort - should include better Gfx than we have them now... Eye candy was always secondary thing for me but if you can push it further by all means please do

Hmm, EVE online...

Wasn't that the one where the game staff were busted for cheating in their own game?

Somehow I don't think Stardock or Ironclad staff will be caught in a similar position.

Are people actually comparing SINS to EVE; a space simulator and a large scale RTS!? ROFL!!

eve player here.

eve is a mmo, sins is a 4x
eve does not level up, neither sins
eve is a teamwork stuff, sins has an awesome multiplayer
btw eve is not boring at all

but the differences are soooooooo big u cannot compare with sins

And the subtitle is "Graphics wise". I compared the graphics, nothing more

Hahaha, another one

Has anyone seen the graphic update in the next expansion to Galactic Civilizations II?

A future expansion might well see Sins surpass EVE graphically given that its not an mmog, and thus not restricted to being a badly performing resource hog like all games in that genre.

And as a former EVE player I would like to add that I would sooner saw off my own leg with a dull butter knife than return to that horrible grind fest which entails logging in, clicking on a skill and logging out for the first six months to a year to be competitive in the most horribly boring PVP experience well.. ever in mmog history.

PVP entails clicking on a target, orbiting said target at a decent range and clicking your weapons, then waiting for the game to decide if you lose or not.

And please.. if any of you decide to inform me that they are from different genres, stab yourself in the eye with a hot soldering iron.

Aye, MMORPG graphics comapred to RTS, it's common knowledge that MMO's will look better than an RTS. Normally games will flood their mmo's with pretty graphics to try and put up a smoke screen to hide the fact it's got terrible gameplay, age of conan anyone?

Still play EVE (quite a bit less now i also play Sins i might add )
They both have their good points and attractions. But they're are each very much their own game. But i agree with the OP, Sins looks amazing (and runs amazing too i might add) And so does EVE.

well i'm actually guessing IC already took some inspiration from the EVE side of things. Both games run amazingly well on my "low-to-mid-range" gaming computer, so on the optimisation side they really did very well. I'm only on an AMD X2 3800+ here with a x1950 Pro under the hood and performance is stellar.

yeah in like 10 years or something.. i played eve for about 2 years. its boring at the start kind of but it gets very interesting as you get more skill points and money. i quit about 5 months ago. ill come back to it in a few months time i guess. that is if AOC turns out to be crap.

Would love to see a 4x EvE game though...