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PUBLISH which GOP voted aginst our Children!

October 18, 2007 3:42:53 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums


I hope the Democrats publish a list of every GOP member of Congress that voted against helping our children. They need to be removed from office in November 2008. I informed my congress members I would work against them if the voted to uphold this Bush Veto.
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Reply #1 October 18, 2007 3:47:24 PM
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No GOP members voted against our children, COL, and you know it. This is a shameful propagandistic ploy.
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Reply #2 October 18, 2007 4:31:22 PM
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Dance for the DNC Col, dance!

I'm not even going to waste any more time on this despicable article. You know from other forums the problems with this bill. Dems didn't want to compromise so it followed suite of the horrible immigration bill.

I commend the GOP's that voted against this bill!

Bravo! Bravo!
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Reply #3 October 18, 2007 4:39:29 PM
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Article A - Clueless Old Inferior Officer claims that GOP is voting against our children by spending money that the government doesn't have

Article B - same Clueless Inferior infidel claims that the GOP is voting against our children by not spending money that the government doesn't have

Anyone else need help spotting the hypocrisy and stupidity?

I know for a fact that the people that voted against this stupid cash give away didn't vote against my children as I work hard enough to make sure that I'm working somewhere that provides me insurance and covers my family.  If the government provided the insurance there'd be no incentive for me to bust my butt and take care of my own and I'd be living off the government give aways rather than paying into the government coffers.

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Reply #4 October 18, 2007 6:30:33 PM
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i can't add anymore against the idiocy of the statement.
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Reply #5 October 18, 2007 7:09:49 PM
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What have children ever done for us in the first place?

~Zoo

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Reply #6 October 18, 2007 7:26:52 PM
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It's just the Democrats borrowing a page from the terrorist handbook - they use children as shields, too.

And another example of Gene's ignorance - Congress does not vote to "uphold" a Presidential veto; they hold a vote to override a veto.
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Reply #7 October 18, 2007 8:49:41 PM
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I've thought about this more.  I WANT the names published.  I want to know who all the HEROES are
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Reply #8 October 18, 2007 8:57:44 PM
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Reply By: Gideon MacLeish Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2007
“No GOP members voted against our children, COL, and you know it. This is a shameful propagandistic ploy.”


Every member of Congress who voted to support the Bush Veto abandoned the children who can not help themselves. That is what is SHAMEFUL! Anyone that supports congressmen like this is also SHAMEFUL!
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Reply #9 October 18, 2007 9:00:46 PM
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Reply By: Adventure-Dude Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2007
Dance for the DNC Col, dance!

I'm not even going to waste any more time on this despicable article. You know from other forums the problems with this bill. Dems didn't want to compromise so it followed suite of the horrible immigration bill.

I commend the GOP's that voted against this bill!

YOU and anyone like you are despicable! Better read what Christ had to say about the rich man and Lazarus. St. Luke Ch 16 Vs 19-31.
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Reply #10 October 18, 2007 9:11:51 PM
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YOU and anyone like you are despicable! Better read what Christ had to say about the rich man and Lazarus. St. Luke Ch 16 Vs 19-31.


WHO was Christ addressing, COL? I find no record of Christ addressing the Roman Senate, but you're obviously the expert on Scripture here.

STEALING someone's money and giving it to the poor is NOT compassion, Col, it's theft. But this has been pointed out to you many, many times.

I'm despicable because I don't steal others' money Col? Sorry, I try to LIVE a Christian life, not TELL OTHERS how to live it!
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Reply #11 October 18, 2007 10:58:08 PM
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Wow, how Democrats whine whenever their patriotism is questioned but how quickly they are to use even worse canards.
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Reply #12 October 19, 2007 8:15:05 AM
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Reply By: Gideon MacLeish Posted: Thursday, October 18, 2007
“YOU and anyone like you are despicable! Better read what Christ had to say about the rich man and Lazarus. St. Luke Ch 16 Vs 19-31.


WHO was Christ addressing, COL? I find no record of Christ addressing the Roman Senate, but you're obviously the expert on Scripture here.”


He was addressing us ALL including members of Congress and the President!
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Reply #13 October 19, 2007 8:20:55 AM
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“ STEALING someone's money and giving it to the poor is NOT compassion, Col, it's theft. But this has been pointed out to you many, many times.

I'm despicable because I don't steal others' money Col? Sorry, I try to LIVE a Christian life, not TELL OTHERS how to live it!”

Allowing the poor to suffer and have nothing is just what Christ was talking about. Taxing is not STEALING that is BS to mask the greed OF THOSE THAT HAVE ALL THE WEALTH WHILE WE ALLOW MILLIONS OF CHILDREN TO GO WITHOUT HEALTH CARE!
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Reply #14 October 19, 2007 8:25:45 AM
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Reply By: little-whip Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
“Why are you screeching, demanding this information be published, as if it isn't already?”


I am aware of the Congressional Record. We need to put those names on Bill Boards and in TV ads. We need full page ads in the NYT listing those Compassionate Conservatives that denied millions of Children health care as we get ready to spend many times the amount in Iraq on a war that should NEVER have been fought!
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Reply #15 October 19, 2007 8:55:23 AM
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He was addressing us ALL including members of Congress and the President!


COL,

it's a pleasure to see that you're as piss poor a theologian as you are a political analyst.
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Reply #16 October 19, 2007 9:03:26 AM
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I am very much in favour of senators and MPs spending their money on charities that help children.

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Reply #17 October 19, 2007 9:13:40 AM
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YOU and anyone like you are despicable! Better read what Christ had to say about the rich man and Lazarus. St. Luke Ch 16 Vs 19-31.


Better to be called despicable and know where I stand and what I believe rather than be the one who doesn't know where they stand and what they believe but only dances for the DNC.

Allowing the poor to suffer and have nothing is just what Christ was talking about.


The Dems are by no means the Robin Hoods of the US forests.

Ah yes. SHOW ME the poor who are suffering Col?

NO WHERE, does Christ say, Give to the gov't to take care of the poor, widows, and orphans.

If you are SOOOOOOO concerned for the poor as you pretend to be then start a non-profit charity that will provide health care for them. Quit trying to forcefully take MY money and give it to the MOST inefficient business there is.

Get a clue!

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Reply #18 October 19, 2007 9:49:00 AM
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Reply By: little-whip Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
~yawn.

“Go do it, then Col Green Beans. Put your money where your mouth is and pay for a few billboards.

Or do you want someone else to pay for that too? (typical Democrat.)”


I will support a candidate and allow the democrats to do the Bill Boards. I bet MOST Americas support this bill as did most of the Congress. We talk a good game about democracy but at home we allow a minority to STOP what the majority wants. That is true in the S-CHIP, Control of our borders, Social Security and Medicare and Iraq. What we see is a continuation of policies that the MAJORITY do not support continues because of the GOP who has placed themselves ABOVE our democracy. At one time I thought the "Line item veto" was something I would support. Seeing how Bush and the so called Compassionate Conservatives act, I know that power in the hands of someone like Bush would be a disaster!
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Reply #19 October 19, 2007 9:54:21 AM
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“If you are SOOOOOOO concerned for the poor as you pretend to be then start a non-profit charity that will provide health care for them. Quit trying to forcefully take MY money and give it to the MOST inefficient business there is.”

We support about 10 charities in addition to our church. The S-Chip plan is about children that DO NOT HAVE HEALTH COVERAGE. Polls show about 70% of Americans support this bill- How in a democracy can you justify stopping what the vast majority want? That includes the vast majority of the Congress elected by the people under our republic? Bush and some GOP are defying the majority of both the people and the government the people elected! That is also true about ending the war in Iraq!
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Reply #20 October 19, 2007 9:56:28 AM
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Leave the program the way it is and we're for it. Expand the program to illegal aliens and college-aged people and we're against it. Some of us anyway. Enough to pass the law.
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Reply #21 October 19, 2007 10:04:15 AM
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Honestly, the funding of the program was just a political maneuver to get the Republicans to vote for their expansion. If we separate funding from non-funding bills, and never allow the two to come together, our government would probably spend a lot less in pork and a lot more on better programs.
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Reply #22 October 19, 2007 10:07:34 AM
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We support about 10 charities in addition to our church.


That's commendable!

Why don't you start a charity to help the children? Why must you forcefully take MY money? If 70% actually supported this bill then support for your newly founded charity would be successful.

You talk about democracy but yet you want to TAKE money from someone who isn't able to yet provide health care for my stay at home wife to provide health care for illegals and for people who make more than twice what I do who have their priority's messed up.

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Reply #23 October 19, 2007 11:31:02 AM
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Reply By: Jythier Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
Honestly, the funding of the program was just a political maneuver to get the Republicans to vote for their expansion. If we separate funding from non-funding bills, and never allow the two to come together, our government would probably spend a lot less in pork and a lot more on better programs.

JUST think how much less we would spend if it were not for the Iraq War!!!!!
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Reply #24 October 19, 2007 11:38:36 AM
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“As well as those earning triple the poverty line! I'm sorry, Clueless, folks making 80k a year do not need help paying for their children's insurance.

Only in America could that kind of income be considered 'having nothing.”

I Hope the democrats clearly exclude illegal aliens. If we want to encourage our children to attend college, I would keep the college students for families with incomes up to about $70,000. The federal poverty level is so low that including families three or four times $21,000 is not too high because people with an income of $60,000-70,000 can not pay $7-8,000 for JUST health insurance. We can pay Farm Subsidies to farmers that make up to $2.5 MILLION per year but can not help families provide health care for their children who make $60,000- $70,000 per year. How do you explain that?
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Reply #25 October 19, 2007 11:46:20 AM
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Reply By: little-whip Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
Expand the program to illegal aliens and college-aged people


As well as those earning triple the poverty line! I'm sorry, Clueless, folks making 80k a year do not need help paying for their children's insurance.

YOU are full of BS. A family in the $70-80K range with a couple of children does not have $8,000 per year, which is the average cost of family health insurance, to pay just for health insurance. Families in the $40-60,000 are even worse off. When you look at what it costs for housing utilities, gasoline, food for a family it does not allow $8,000 for health insurance.
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