NO you are no longer wasting money when you set your sliders. They removed that. Research and production carry over to the next item if there is excess so that you are not constantly adjusting the sliders. And good riddance to micromanagement.

NO you are no longer wasting money when you set your sliders. They removed that. Research and production carry over to the next item if there is excess so that you are not constantly adjusting the sliders. And good riddance to micromanagement.

So how exactly is this handled? The credits are just not spent, or they are spent and just saved up until you DO decide to build something in that category and then applied to that?

Right now, social production is still "wasted" but military spending simply isn't deducted from your treasury.  So if you're not building a ship, you're not wasting the credits.

I think there is the option to focus spending on individual worlds. You can focus on military, social or research. It is not very efficient but it improves one field at the the cost of the other two.

The manual states on page 30 that "Social production, represented by hammes, is spent on projects. If you have no projects queued, the number above the hammers will be in parenthesis. In this case, the hammers are not drawing bc from your treasury." Did you change your mind, or is there a misunderstanding

Well, if you are interested, you should look a the following thread https://www.galciv2.com/Forums.aspx?ForumID=274&AID=94769 . As you can see, social production problem was spotted during the beta, but we didn't have any official statement about this

Yes, I hope as well that it'll be working as described in the manual in the end. Makes perfect sense, and would be annoying if not.

I am assuming the sliders are dependent on each other, so that social%+military%+research% = 100%

It is the case. You must choose how you are spending you BC

But I am not sure to undersatnd your problem.

It is the case. You must choose how you are spending you BC But I am not sure to undersatnd your problem.

To illustrate with an example: I have a total of 20 military manufacturing points, 20 social manufacturing points and 10 research points. The way I think would be logical is to then be able to set the spending slider up to a max of 50bc (20+20+10=50). Now that I have set the spending to 50, which is enough to max out both social, military and research production, the % sliders should be irrelevant, since I should now be producing 20 points social, 20 points military, and 10 points research. However, the way I interprit the manual quote above, for me to be able to generate 10 research points, I would have to completely shut down both military and social production, no matter how much income I have. This is what I find strange and unnatural.

Edit: And my point is not to change the economics of the game, it is just frustrating to not understand how it works at all. I've played the beta a little bit, but I did not quite figure out how this works. I just cant wait till tuesday evening (in europe). I've even studied today so that I can take wednesday off to play the game

I think this could be improved.

Proposal one:

Three sliders:
Slider 1: Level of funding for research 0-100%. This is an empire-wide setting. You want all of your research generating facilities to output 0-100% of their research capacity.

Slider 2: Level of funding for manufacturing 0-100%. This is an empire-wide setting. You want all of your production generating facilities to output 0-100% of their capacity.

Slider 3: Military/Social production bias. This slider is an empire-wide setting for selecting the focus of your production generating facilities. The slider would allow between 0-100% of production to focus on military production and the remainder to be allocated to social production. Example: If set at 50%, then all manufacturing production would be equally divded between military and social projects. Also keep in mind that the individual planets may also set their own bias (focus on military or social).

Proposal two:
Social production not being "wasted" but rather excess is treated the same as unused military spending - it simply isn't deducted from your treasury. So if you're not building a social project, you're not wasting the credits.

Any comments as to why this would not work favourably? I think it would help minimize micromanagement on part of the player, adding to the overall fun of the experience.

Any comments as to why this would not work favourably? I think it would help minimize micromanagement on part of the player, adding to the overall fun of the experience.

Well, it will sureky change the way things are balanced, but it is a nice idea. And this would get rid of the spending slider. But that wouldn't really change the way you are using your budget: sliders at still set on an empire level.

But I must say that the current sliders don't really add much micro management. The micromanagement would be to have sliders at a planetary level.

Sorry, I meant to say that proposal two helps to eliminate micromanagement, as the current situation means you must watch production on every planet to make sure that you are not wasting money on non-existant social projects.

Well, proposal 2 corresponds to the manual.

BTW, even if you are not wasting BC, it doesn't mean that it is the most efficient way of using your BC

Frogboy: Right now, social production is still "wasted" but military spending simply isn't deducted from your treasury. So if you're not building a ship, you're not wasting the credits.

Peace Phoenix: From the user manual (draft 2): Military Production, represented by shields, will be spent constructing ships if the planet has a Star Port. If the planet has 29 no Star Port, or if the Star Port doesn’t have a ship queued for construction, the number above the shields will be in parenthesis. In this case, the shields are not drawing bc from your treasury. Each shield represents one manufacturing point being spent. Social Production, represented by hammers, is spent on projects. If you have no projects queued, the number above the hammers will be in parenthesis. In this case, the hammers are not drawing bc from your treasury. Each hammer also represents one manufacturing point. So the fact that I am wasting BC when not building anything is definetly a bug.

Ok so i guess this is a bug RIGHT??? I can't understand why is it that Military spending isn't wasted but social is??
It clearly says in the manual BOTH are supposed to show a PARENTHESIS when nothing is in queu list, and no money should be drawn from empire treasury.


EXPLAIN PLZ ,
Monclova34 confused


Monc34