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October 10, 2012 8:26:02 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

Ugh.

So I’m making the monsters move at a different phase than the players so that they do a better job attacking one another.

Pain.

I have it working.

But there’s a cosmetic problem. When the little guys run back to their spot, they get stuck with the running animation. We’ve all seen cases of this before.  And we had stomped it out. But this change brings it back with a vengeance.

So I’m still working on it.

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Reply #1 October 10, 2012 8:49:15 PM
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Chariots of Fire.

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Reply #2 October 10, 2012 9:01:42 PM
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*cheers* You can do eet!

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Reply #3 October 10, 2012 9:23:50 PM
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Aarrrgh!

So

Much

pain!

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Reply #4 October 10, 2012 9:27:18 PM
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Quick... grab the guinness... it's your only hope at success here.

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Reply #5 October 10, 2012 9:41:04 PM
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Stay on target!

 

Also, if your patching process is anything like mine... there is a difference between "stomping out a bug" and putting a band-aid on it. 

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Reply #6 October 10, 2012 10:11:08 PM
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Line spoken by the Wicked Witch of the West in the movie:  The Wizard of Oz , to the heroine, Dorothy, and her terrier (dog) Toto: 

                 " I'll get you, my pretty, and your little dog too! "

An American-ism meaning that not only will the person (or thing) being addressed be punished, but their conspirators will also.

(Source: the Wiktionary; because I figure Kongdej, or another of our non-american friends, may ask:      WTF is Frogboy talking about?)           

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Reply #7 October 10, 2012 10:13:12 PM
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Quoting ,
quoting post

So I’m making the monsters move at a different phase than the players so that they do a better job attacking one another.

 

This should fix the problem for monsters vs AI. But then will the same problem occur for AI vs AI since presumably all AI players move together in the same phase, no?

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Reply #8 October 10, 2012 10:28:56 PM
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Quoting Ben Yeoh,
reply 8
This should fix the problem for monsters vs AI. But then will the same problem occur for AI vs AI since presumably all AI players move together in the same phase, no?

Monsters only get to move 1 per turn. the AI players get to move as much as regular players so the issue is not as prevalent or not there at all.

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Reply #9 October 10, 2012 11:08:53 PM
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Quoting Frogboy,
reply 3
Aarrrgh!

So

Much

pain!

 

You're our only hope, Obiwan !

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Reply #10 October 10, 2012 11:16:52 PM
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ruff!

 

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Reply #11 October 11, 2012 12:55:39 AM
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Quoting parrottmath,
reply 9
Quoting Ben Yeoh, reply 8This should fix the problem for monsters vs AI. But then will the same problem occur for AI vs AI since presumably all AI players move together in the same phase, no?

Monsters only get to move 1 per turn. the AI players get to move as much as regular players so the issue is not as prevalent or not there at all.

 

Interception is the problem and from what i have seen in ai games it's there with ai to ai as well. I think with the time left fully serialized turns is the way to go, it should allow the majority of these problems to be fixed, that or go full we-go where the player plots his moves hits end turn, the ai and monsters plot their moves and then there is an execution phase where all the interceptions bring up a combat window, this would mean putting in some movement prediction algorithms but that should be less work than trying to figure out all the current problems with this hybrid simulataneous turn system.

 

I just hope this above any other problem gets fixed before release.

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Reply #12 October 11, 2012 1:14:14 AM
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Ok, the bloody monsters now move in their own phase of the turn.

 

Good night!

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Reply #13 October 11, 2012 1:37:35 AM
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Good night!

 

Sleep well!

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Reply #14 October 11, 2012 6:39:30 AM
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Quoting OrionM42,
reply 7
because I figure Kongdej, or another of our non-american friends, may ask: WTF is Frogboy talking about?

You figured right Tanks!

Quoting Frogboy,
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Ok, the bloody monsters now move in their own phase of the turn.

Good night!

Sounds cool, wanna try it now!
I wonder if there will be less 4 square monster chases now

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

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Reply #15 October 11, 2012 9:35:53 AM
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Quoting ,
quoting post
Ugh.

So I’m making the monsters move at a different phase than the players so that they do a better job attacking one another.

Pain.

I have it working.

But there’s a cosmetic problem. When the little guys run back to their spot, they get stuck with the running animation. We’ve all seen cases of this before.  And we had stomped it out. But this change brings it back with a vengeance.

So I’m still working on it.

Keep fighting the good fight Frogboy.

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Reply #16 October 11, 2012 9:49:07 AM
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I'm still up.  I figure while I'm messing with this, I should take care of that annoying backwards walking thing.

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Reply #17 October 11, 2012 9:56:08 AM
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Quoting Frogboy,
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I should take care of that annoying backwards walking thing.

but but... My army likes moonwalking!

Sincerely
~ Kongdej

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Reply #18 October 11, 2012 10:09:25 AM
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Champion of phasal animation!

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Reply #19 October 11, 2012 10:26:46 AM
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Quoting Kongdej,
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but but... My army likes moonwalking!

Only if you make a group of 5 and call them the Jacksons

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Reply #20 October 11, 2012 10:38:13 AM
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Quoting Frogboy,
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I'm still up.  I figure while I'm messing with this, I should take care of that annoying backwards walking thing.

Sleep is overrated anyway

 

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Reply #21 October 11, 2012 10:52:19 AM
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..."he was hanged from the world tree for 9 days and nights, pierced by his own spear, in order to learn the wisdom that would give him power"

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Reply #22 October 11, 2012 11:41:01 AM
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Quoting Frogboy,
reply 17
I'm still up.  I figure while I'm messing with this, I should take care of that annoying backwards walking thing.

 

Maybe if you got some sleep you would realize there is no point in mastering how to walk backwards. 

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Reply #23 October 11, 2012 1:59:51 PM
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I have a little dog and he is terribly cute.

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