You need to explain what makes them OP before I'd agree, At this point in time TEC is overpowered as far as unit cost efficency and economy is concerned. The Vasari Loyalists atm have a monstrous economic advantage with stripped that could be adressed but beyond that they are working as intended increasing the time it takes to scuttle planets would be a good place to start (as this would balance strip and delay their economic advantage).

The Rebels are OP because of the low tier traveling orky (This one doesnt need to be explained. My Suggestion with the traveling orky is to make the upgrade give a starbase upgrade that is unique upgrade (1 active per game), this would fix many issues and consume an upgrade slot.

The Vasari titans atm are not the best, the Antimatter drain on the VR Titan is over the top and could use some tuning but compared to the other racial counterparts they are quite weak.

Vasari rebels sb phase jump rush on small maps

Vasari Loyalist njam njam planet rush on medium or large maps

If they do, the debuff doesn't show up on the affected unit's infocard (which more than likely means, no.  They don't work).  As far as I can tell, the structure-assault nanites are garbage for assaulting structures in their current form.

Not that either Vasari faction really needs them right now, of course. 

Although the damage it deals is inadequate, the Vasari Loyalist Titan has that nice ability to phase jump in gravwell, which makes it better than many think.

and which opponents do you face--let me guess, vasari rebels, advent rebels, tec rebels.

Ok, let me phrase it like this.

If you are a VL in eco spot, you will not only get better eco than anything else in eco spot, you can also use your capship labs to skirmish in to enemy territory and omnomnom planets. Effecticly denying them any hope for eco.

It is next to impossible to catch vasari caps if you have marauder. And sine you can save the lab costs while making cap ships and have exstra slots for any economy, you actualy get returns from investing in capital ships. Something no other race gets.

Anyone who have played diplo with me knows i am a huge capship spamming whore. But in earlier versions Ive always took a risk, now i can just run my fleet and economy at the same time without sacrificing a squat. The only reason i dont play so often this fuckshit awfully balanced piece of crap race right now is not to get used to this easy mode play style.

The VR are less of obnoxious, because even tho the moving orky is scary. At least with VR, you have to actually eco up and watch for harass. Even so, moving orky is a bullshit beyond proportions. Even when vasari could not phase space orkies, vasari eco player could easily spamm well upgraded orkies all fucking over map. No pop cap on orky kind of allows it. Now you dont even need to spamm them. Now you can just build an orky in safety of your planets, and move its fully upgraded arse down the enemy throat. The VR titan is also a big time shenanigans, since it can disable a whole fleet of balanced units. If you are planning going something else than full fleet of bombers against that, forget it. All your hoshikos or guardians are going to sit there uselessly.

I dont know what the devs were smoking when they did this but i want some of that. Other races dont even come close to this level of shenanigans. Both other 2 races have all they "super" stuff focused on defense. Advent nor tech can really do anything remotely as gay as vasari can when playing offensively. And we all know that playing defensively against vasari is just asking to getting your ass kicked.

I had a game of starcraft 2 with my cousin-who  loves advent rebels, hates nano-leech and now im going to play Diablo 3..

As you can imagine we have 2 copies of rebellion: 2 copies in the whole family.. that's not normal. Anyway his damn good at the game, im better but as you can imagine we can't be playing this game right now.. everything seems so op^ or up^

If it was less, you would be better keeping the planets to get the money and resources conventional way as the other factions.

My calculations are same as yours, when you say, its stupendously high.

if you have 0 income from planet, how would you get money? Or do you suggest making the dark ships summoned from phase gates free?

finally, you ruin all YOUR juicy terras and deserts.
 

Ok, maybe Its just me, or maybe I just don't play against the right people, but I almost always play Advent, and usually Rebels, And 9 times out of ten I can flatten any Tec player, and about 60% of the time beat vasari. On the rare occations I play tec, I sort of hold my own, but I haven't been able to win any games as the Vasari, even against the AI on single player, unless I put the computer on normal or weaker. If the Vasari or so OP, what am I doing wrong?

I played Sins, Entrench, and Diplo, and was able to win as all three races in the older games, but not in rebellion.

I'm just a little confused.

1. The vasari Corvette is the worst (T2 and more taxing than the other races), Loyalists are good against Horiko fleets, rebels are good against advent.

2. Titans are fine in terms of power, the problem is people can build them and retain levels something has to be done with titans dying and being rebuilt whether they are more expensive or a level lost per death....something.

3. Yes the VR Orky is overpowered atm.

Maybe a solution would be to reduce the resources given from stripped when you own more than one planet and the full amount if it's the only planet you have colonized.

Edit: I think we need to try and reward players who go entirely mobile, the VL become imbalanced when you consider the ability to be a hybrid between the two.

That is an excellent point.  (Good to see you back, man!)  With the upgrade that allows a cap to count as two civic and two military research labs, four capital ships = 16 logistics spots!  That is essentially more powerful than the TEC level 6 upgrade that gives you an extra logistic slot on each planet (at least for online multiplayer PvP where it's very unlikely that anyone would have more than 16 planets).  That's like having 16 extra trade ports.