Federation and Empire » Forum Post by USAF

Okay here you go Ronin. Some Gorn support ships. First this is a Colony ship based off of your Light Cruiser. Figured you could change it into a Cargo hull to make it work.

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These two are ships that I built from the ground up. Based on your Light Cruiser. But use the Cargo hull from the start. A Colony Ship and a Mining Ship.

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Sweet Gorn ships, I thought I might try my hand at some Romulan ships instead. Here is the Condor class, kind of cool since its kind of a hybrid of Romulan and Klingon technology.

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IF you do an expansion pack for the Federation how about the Chandley Class Frigate? LOL sorry was one of my favorite ships from the Fasa game that was out years ago.

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Well.....had to tell this to you guys. It is so funny and kinda interesting. Below is the map of my Federation game. Starting with the lower left in pink. Is the Lapsadia ( a Rabbit race I made). The Red Brown is the Klingon Empire. Grey is the Korx. Dark Brown is the Gorn Alliance. The Yellow runing up and down in the middle is the Federation (me). The Faded Green at the top is the Korath. Orange is the Drath. The Romulan Empire is the Dark Green . Kizinti is the yellow on the right side. And the Borg is the Rose Red. The Klingon's have declared war with the Romulan's. So guess were the battles are taking place. What is worse is that I am allies to both right now. And this turn the Korx went to war with the Borg.

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IF you do an expansion pack for the Federation how about the Chandley Class Frigate? LOL sorry was one of my favorite ships from the Fasa game that was out years ago.

You mean this?

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Sweet Gorn ships, I thought I might try my hand at some Romulan ships instead. Here is the Condor class, kind of cool since its kind of a hybrid of Romulan and Klingon technology.

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The Condor Romulan ship will be in the next edition.

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LOL wow AF...haha thats my girl there!!! I loved her to death, partly due to the fact that she had aft torpedo's, which was before Wrath of Khan showing the Miranda having them!!(err Reliant I guess I should say) You are simply amazing to be able to make something that fast!! I cant wait not til its in the expansion!! Thanks again for letting me see it! Haha Brings back memory of playing that FASA game! If I had a clue how to give you some of my Karma I would haha(dont even know if I can or not!!)

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LOL wow AF...haha thats my girl there!!! I loved her to death, partly due to the fact that she had aft torpedo's, which was before Wrath of Khan showing the Miranda having them!!(err Reliant I guess I should say) You are simply amazing to be able to make something that fast!! I cant wait not til its in the expansion!! Thanks again for letting me see it! Haha Brings back memory of playing that FASA game! If I had a clue how to give you some of my Karma I would haha(dont even know if I can or not!!)

oh don't give me too much credit I just found that pic online. But I can build it for the game too.

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Do you have additional mods that let you build the stuff or do you just use what the game gives you, because the ships you make are wow!! Makes me want to try, but im horrible at stuff like that...much better with typing and changing XML stuff haha. Well if you do make one up Ill love to see it!

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My ships are specifically made with out a mod so anyone can use them as long as the have Twilight of Arnor.

When the ships are done there will be an accompanying mod with unique tech trees and races that will accompany the ships.

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Wanted to show Ronin's Fed ships in action. After getting the Klingon's, Romulan's, Borg, and Korx to make peace. The Korx decided that I was not to be trusted and declared war on me. Here is my 1st Carrier group in action. The ships are Challenger (CV), Tasmania (Republic), Borodino and Gettysburg (Gettysburg), One A-20 Avenger, and Six F-18 Hornet II's. They took on a Korx Battleship that was after the troop transports.

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Im assuming you made the klingons, borg and such as a custom opponents, but did you use AF's other ships for the klingons, romulands and gorn? If so, how did you get them to actually build those ships? I had done the above, but couldnt get the races to build the race specific ships!! I so wanted to go up against a L-13 Fatman haha.

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I think that the trick is to play the Races at least once. Then I believe the AI will use ships that you have used in the game. I am assuming that they are in some file for the AI to look at. That is what has happened with me. But I do see some of the other ships used as well. So the AI kinda picks and choses it would seem. And to answer your other question. Yes I custom made them into the game. Not sure if I can list other mods here. But there are some nice custom Character Face mods that I use. That I got from here. There is one for the Borg, Klingon, Romulan, and Federation. Then another set has a nice reptile face that I use for the Gorn. Love how he smiles when he likes you. On page 4, I posted a note of what Techs I used for the races.

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Hey Ronin...? When do you think that the Klingon pack will clear the checks and I can get my sweaty grubby paws on it?

Kinda have been like that little puppy that needs to go out. Pacing all over the place.

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I think that the trick is to play the Races at least once. Then I believe the AI will use ships that you have used in the game. I am assuming that they are in some file for the AI to look at. That is what has happened with me. But I do see some of the other ships used as well. So the AI kinda picks and choses it would seem. And to answer your other question. Yes I custom made them into the game. Not sure if I can list other mods here. But there are some nice custom Character Face mods that I use. That I got from here. There is one for the Borg, Klingon, Romulan, and Federation. Then another set has a nice reptile face that I use for the Gorn. Love how he smiles when he likes you. On page 4, I posted a note of what Techs I used for the races.

When you create a custom shipstyle take a look at the file itself and open it up in notepad or soemthing. You'll see that it has AI markers on it telling the computer to use those ships when they construct their own fleets.

Custom shipstyles are for AI use not the player this is why I have to put a little work into making it player useable. (changing the prefixes and adding templates to the ShipCfg folder - but I do all that stuff for you so you guys just copy and paste.)

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Hey Ronin...? When do you think that the Klingon pack will clear the checks and I can get my sweaty grubby paws on it? Kinda have been like that little puppy that needs to go out. Pacing all over the place.

That depends on how busy Kryo is. Seen it take as quick as an hour or to as long as a week:

Notice: Pending mods now under review!

Im assuming you made the klingons, borg and such as a custom opponents, but did you use AF's other ships for the klingons, romulands and gorn? If so, how did you get them to actually build those ships? I had done the above, but couldnt get the races to build the race specific ships!! I so wanted to go up against a L-13 Fatman haha.

With the new editions of my ships there shouldn't be any mixing up on styles. The old edition templates of Klingon ships had a prefix of "S1" which meant they shared the same prefix with the Drengin. The ones of my 2nd Edition have a custom prefix of "KLG"(3rd Editon Federation ships have a prefix of "FED") so if the AI plays that customship style they can only use shiphulls with "KLG" prefix giving him 20 hulls to play with. Including the mighty L-13 FATMAN!!!! Hey I didn't name it.

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Hey Ronin, Having a a hard time here, I put your fed pck 3 in and the fed ships show up in pre update in the apperance section. I update the game and it's not there. I can't get the fed ships at all. I've spent 3 days tring to fix this even, restored my computer to march 25, removed any trace of glatick civ. reloaded disks.
When I played version 2 it was no fed sips aqvail till mid hulls in taren style, but no fed ship slection. in apperance, menu. I want to play your mods, they look great, but would like to start with the version 3 styles... What do I need 2 do?

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Did you install ALL the new files? The new shipstyle file in the pack uses a ship prefix of "FED". All the ships from 3rd Edition have the "FED" prefix so they are only accessible by selecting the shipstyle during race set up.

Go through the 3rd Edition pack that you can download and make sure every file is in the right spot. YOu no longer need the files from the previous editions. Its a easy thing to mess up accidently.

Also never fear about having to redownload another edition of the Federation Ships. I have no intention of changing that shipstyle file. Future expansion ships will be on seperate downloads and have the "FED" prefix already so you just install and start a new game.

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Ok I am not sure when u say is "every file is in the right place" I unziped the pack in: C:\Documents and Settings\Richard\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor

I have 8 folders in there, Metaverse, Pics, SanboxGames, ShipCfg, Ships, ShipStyles, shiptemplates, and temp,
There are also 7 files; AutoSave.sav, ComponentFavorites.txt, debug.err, prefs.ini, PreviousAutoSave.sav, Star Fleet.raceconfigxml, Start.sav.

That is everything in that dir.

What do I need to put where?

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Ok to prevent further confusion I think I need to add a readme file to the pack other then just the mod info in the library.

The ShipCfg files does not go to: C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor

Those files go to:
C:\Program Files\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\Twilight\Data\ShipCfg

The rest of the pack is in C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor.

You can delete the pics folder in the pack. That's just for so you can see examples.

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Thanks a ton I'll try that now and let you know how it goes!

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I copied all files into:
C:\Program Files\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\Twilight\Data\ShipCfg
Fed ships didn't show up in ship styles, and Fed ships were not in the template section in tarren ship builder.

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That was The files in ShipCfg.

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Okay so I'm at work right now and downloaded the ship pack to the work computer to take a look at it so if I get in trouble I blame everything on your rockmongrels. Just kidding.

Out of the 6 folders in the pack only 4 are needed to make the shipstyle work right.

Put the files of folders: Ships; ShipStyles; and Shiptemplates in the folders of the same names found in:
C:\Documents and Settings\My Documents\My Games\GC2TwilightArnor\

Put the files of the ShipCfg folder in the folder of the same name found:
C:\Program Files\Stardock\TotalGaming\GalCiv2\Twilight\Data\

Start the game. At race setup choose Federation Ship Style and go at it.

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