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9th Circ. says parents have no right to be sole sex teachers

What in the name of all that is.... This is judicial activism truly run amok....

November 5, 2005 6:10:04 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
Nod to a fellow blogger. Over at http://isitjust.blogspot.com/ there's an article mentioning a recent news item caught by CNSNews (Cybercast News Service) on an idiotic decision by the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. That would be the circuit that covers California, which is where the participants in the case hail from.

The original CNSNews article can be found here: Appeals Court Declares Parenthood Unconstitutional, Group Says, and a few snippets will be included below. Please read them carefully, and more importantly, get over to CNSNews and check the entire article.

This is the type of stuff that should frustrate all voters in this country, especially parents. These are the absolute worst of activist judges. These are the kinds of judges that we should be replacing on the bench with Alitos, Roberts, and other similar judges.

Sickening.

Anyway, clips follow:



A new ruling from the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is prompting cries of judicial activism.

On Wednesday the court dismissed a lawsuit brought by California parents who were outraged over a sex survey given to public school students in the first, third and fifth grades.

Among other things, the survey administered by the Palmdale School District asked children if they ever thought about having sex or touching other people's "private parts" and whether they could "stop thinking about having sex."

The parents argued that they -- not the public schools -- have the sole right "to control the upbringing of their children by introducing them to matters of and relating to sex."

But on Wednesday, a three-judge panel of the 9th Circuit dismissed the case, saying, "There is no fundamental right of parents to be the exclusive provider of information regarding sexual matters to their children...Parents have no due process or privacy right to override the determinations of public schools as to the information to which their children will be exposed while enrolled as students."


... more at the original article

Please note most importantly the quotes from the case dismissal. Where are these idiots getting this stupid logic?!

Parents have no rights over their offspring?! What?!

I'm sure there are a few teachers here at J.U. that love this type of screwed up logic. It gives the teachers and the school system the ultimate power, which is absolutely and completely wrong.

First, school systems should be serving the will of the people. They typically are run by elected school boards, and those elected individuals serve at the whim of the public. Making stupid decisions like this should result in a complete turnover of the school board, the administrators and others at the schools that are involved in this leftist crap.

Please, everyone just pray that the left coast finally falls off this country so the rest of us can get back to normalcy.
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Reply #1 November 5, 2005 6:34:05 PM
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Isn't it a crime to walk up to other people's kids and start talking to them about sexual things? I mean, if you walked up to someone's kid in a laundrymat and asked them if they thought about touching other people's privates it would be a crime, right? So you can be a Kinsey-esque pervert who gets their jollies in the guise of "studies", all you have to do is get a job doing it legally in the school system.

I would consider anyone who treated small kids like that to be an abuser, in school or out, and would deal with them as such. If the school system is a party to it, then the parents would have to stop the abuse by any reasonable means. Hopefully teachers will realize they have a lot more trouble in store from parents than they do from the school system and refuse to undertake the studies.
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Reply #2 November 5, 2005 9:05:08 PM
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The 9th Circus is pathetic.  That is what the democrats want Scotus to be.  And they rail against moderate people like Roberts and Alito!

They have lost touch with reality.  And it will bite them in the ass soon enough.

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Reply #3 November 5, 2005 9:17:25 PM
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I definately think these kids are too young to be asked questions like that. I can't believe that a school would agree to this. I would hate to think of what the parents would do the principal at my boys school if they tried something like this. She would have to leave town. If it is permissable though I definately think the parents should have been informed prior and had an opt out option.

I do think that sex education should be taught in schools to high school age kids. I think many parents do not give their kids any kind of sex education except for the "don't do it" variety. I think it is great when parents are open with their kids and their kids can ask them questions and talk to them but I think that's the exception. I think most parents are embarassed by "the talk".

The only thing I ever learned from my parents is when I went on spring break to Florida my dad told me not to come home pregnant. I learned all kinds of misinformation from my equally uninformed friends. My mom also told me that my boyfriend (now my husband) was just using me for "what he could get from me". Not very helpful or informative.
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Reply #4 November 5, 2005 10:48:06 PM
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Apparently the arrogant oafs at the 9th Circus Court of Shlameals think they have the right to be sole lawmakers. They need to climb out of their bongs and shake off the buzz they've been on for most their lives.

The argument has gone from, "is it the job of teachers to teach sex education" to "parents have no right to interfere" now on to "parents have no right".

The 9th Circus is nothing but a bunch of self agrandized fools.
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Reply #5 November 5, 2005 11:04:45 PM
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The 9th Circus is nothing but a bunch of self agrandized fools.


Very well put!
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Reply #6 November 6, 2005 11:18:04 AM
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Thanks all for the comments here.

I didn't go with the original headline that CNSNews used on this one. If I had, I probably could have pulled in many more responses, mostly in the Duh, WHAT THE F---?!?! type range I expect.

The 9th Circuit is definitely "out there." They continue to go their own way, damn any history of prior rulings, traditions, or anything else that might help them see the stupidity of their own decisions.

The one thing that save us all, thankfully, is that many of the 9th Circuit decisions never stand. They eventually do get blown out of the water - either because their decisions were over-ruled, or because the lawmakers find another way to pass the same basic laws without the constitutional problems that the 9th Circuit believes they have found.

Lets hope that continues, and that this decision, like their "under God" decision is not left to stand.
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