I was getting extremely fed up with the Montgomery post- where everyone is just repeating themselves and no one- no matter what side you're on- is really giving reasons for why they think what they do anymore. People just say "this is how it is," and I have yet to see very many good "facts" from either side, despite what people are saying.
So, here's my thread. To start off- I would really appreciate it if everyone could keep the personal bashing and leftist/conservative attacks out of this. I've been looking on this site, and there seems to be very few people who are capable of having a rational discussion with someone, so this should be a good exercise in self control for everyone.
Point of this thread is {surprise!} gay marraige. What do you think of it? Is it a right? Is it something else? Why do you see it that way? What evidence do you have that supports your view, all of that. Is homosexuality itself genetic or a choice, should the religious beliefs of the people who make the desicion get in the way of whether or not homosexual marriage should be legalized? If we legalize gay marriage should we also legalize bestiality, incest, etc? Just...I dunno, starting questions, discussion starters, whatever you want to call them. I'm not going to post my opinion just yet; I want to see what other people think of it. Though I'll tell you now I'm firmly for gay RIGHTS- in marriage if nothing else. You have the right to marry someone of the opposite sex given certain conditions; you should have the right to marry someone of the same sex with those conditions. The reason you can't marry your daughter is because of the possible genetic mix-ups that would be involved, and the increased chance of mental retardation/deformity. I'm not entirely sure why you can't have more than one spouse, but then, I think you should be able to if you really want to. It's religious for some people, and it should be legal- but that's not the topic.
However, if you marry someone of the same sex- as long as they're not related to you, or the other conditions set down by law- it doesn't harm anything. Marriage is a civil right- by the ninth amendment, which says basically that any right not set down by the Constitution and that does not infringe on someone else's right is an unspoken right in the eyes of the Constitution. To me, that includes marriage. Marriage doesn't have to be religious- if I ever get married mine won't be- but you have the right to legally be bound to someone you love. And if that someone you love is male, and you're male, then fine. It's still your right.
It shouldn't even matter if it's a choice or if it's genetic, or if it's just something that happens {I know I said I wasn't going to tell my opinion; I lied}- because it's still your right. But I know I didn't make a conscious choice to be straight- I didn't wake up one monrning and say, "Ok, I'm going to like boys," it was just something that has been there all along. I don't see how it would be different for someone who likes the same sex.
My question is- why would someone choose to be part of a group that is ridiculed, slandered, disrespected, and generally hated by the majority of the population? Why would someone want that? Maybe I'm just being thick and I can't comprehend the mind of society, but to me that seems pretty damn unlikely.
Thoughts?
Cheers, Pads
