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Liberals just don't get it

February 15, 2005 10:34:03 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
I have been wondering what is it about my blog that seems to raise the ire of so many liberals.

I mean if you call me a racist, I care not one whit, because the truth is I am not one.

If you say I beat my wife, it bothers me not, why you ask? Because I don’t beat her.

Simple huh?

It seems to me when I post something about how whiney cry babyish you are, if the shoe doesn’t fit WHY are you responding in the negative?

Maybe on some level YOU are starting to see how YOU behave and me putting it out there for the world to see upsets your little feelings.

So when I post something that upsets you, stand back and LOOK AT YOURSELF, cause we all know that saying “truth hurts” huh?

Stop behaving like little girly men and I won’t have anything to blog about, simple huh? You can get rid of me just by simply stop being obstructionist people< rid yourself of this demon {me} by ridding yourselves of the demons within.

Face it you had your chance at changing America and all you did was weaken her.
Much as I loved bill Clinton, his weak ass foreign policy told the terrorist we were weak, and easy pickings for them.

Do you really think if we had a strong policy those little bearded men would have dared attack us?

When they bombed our embassies YOU did nothing, when they bombed the USS Cole, you did nothing except to embolden them to more and more destruction.

Now the enemy sees how you are at odds with My President, and are further empowered by your very words and behavior, they do not see anti war protesting as strength, the terrorist see it as WEAKNESS, why can’t you see it that way?

So when you see what someone here likes to call an “ad hominem” attack and it draws some blood, don’t blame me, blame your own behavior and attitude.

It’s kind of hard to make a point about what you consider MY bad or twisted views, when YOU resort to name calling on a PERSONAL level, while I just generalize. {Thank you to nj for pointing that out to me}, I have neither slandered nor libeled anyone here, just your party or political stances {as I see them}

SO if I hurt your little feeling, GET OVER IT! And get over my blog name too……….MODERATEMAN>>>
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Reply #1 February 16, 2005 2:12:49 AM
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Hardly the ramblings of a 'twisted mind'
I salute your rage.
Youth has it's one advantage, the firm belief that it can change the world, by stamping it's feet.
Or taking up the sword and thrashing at the Wind.
Adolph Hitler tried to change his world with VIOLENCE, and we are still cleaning up the debri.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh..........wayward son.
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Reply #2 February 16, 2005 2:34:01 AM
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Hear, hear Modman.
Another excellent article. Take it to the enemy. Backpats to you, mah man.....keep tellin'em.
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Reply #3 February 16, 2005 9:08:20 AM
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I would say one of your better issues, and well stated.
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Reply #4 February 16, 2005 9:34:45 AM
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*smirk*

Poor Wormwood, feeding of the hate of others is so tiring, isn't it?
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Reply #5 February 16, 2005 9:44:17 AM
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I would say one of your better issues, and well stated.



Really?


I have been wondering what is it about my blog that seems to raise the ire of so many liberals.


Moderateman, I have read your blog for a while now. You appear to have a chip on your shoulder about liberals--we are all you talk about. I'm not a big fan of the way some conservatives on this site act, and I certainly don't agree with their poliltics, but you don't see me writing blog upon blog where I call them "cry babies, and "whiney" amoung other things.

It is your blog and you are free to do what you'd like. But if you are going to continue to spew hatred, why be surprised when liberals call you on it.

Much as I loved bill Clinton, his weak ass foreign policy told the terrorist we were weak, and easy pickings for them.


While I am not going to argue that Clinton did everything right in the foreign policy theatre, you are going to have a hard time convincing me that his policy was "weak ass." Have you forgotten about Northern Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement? What about Bosnia? Or the abiity of US officials under Clinton to dampen tensions between Greece and Turkey in the eastern Aegean? Or the Partnership for Peace facilitating military cooperation between West and East European countries? How about when the Clinton Administration worked to keep Mexico from the brink of economic disaster? I could go on.

Now the enemy sees how you are at odds with My President, and are further empowered by your very words and behavior, they do not see anti war protesting as strength, the terrorist see it as WEAKNESS, why can’t you see it that way?


If the terrorists silence ONE person, they have won. If one war protestor doesn't voice their concern because they are afraid that speaking out against this administration will some how strengthen terrorism, al Qaeda has won. al Qaeda wants to rid the west of its freedom and prosperity--any move you make to quell American civil liberties helps them. Do not chastise fellow Americans for voicing their dissent--they are not empowering the terrorists. This country was founded on dissent, dissent against the crown. To bite our tongues now would be a great disservice to our fore fathers.
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Reply #6 February 16, 2005 10:07:49 AM
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What about Bosnia? Hmmm...Bosnia....wasn't that where Clinton sent in American troops to help the UN keep the peace...and then left them there because he had no exit strategy? Hmm.....that sounds familiar....where have I heard that before?


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If the terrorists silence ONE person, they have won. If one war protestor doesn't voice their concern because they are afraid that speaking out against this administration will some how strengthen terrorism, al Qaeda has won. al Qaeda wants to rid the west of its freedom and prosperity--any move you make to quell American civil liberties helps them. Do not chastise fellow Americans for voicing their dissent--they are not empowering the terrorists. This country was founded on dissent, dissent against the crown. To bite our tongues
---shadesodgrey


Shades, you're looking at this from the "American" perspective, where freedom of opinion and speech is a treasured thing. To the terrorists, however, who look with disdain on such things as democracy and personal expression and do not treasure them, we do appear divided and weak.
The more you complain, the more divisivenes you cause, the more you give them cause to keep up their struggle.
I unerstand, though, that you can't see it that way, but that's how it is.
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Reply #7 February 16, 2005 10:16:30 AM
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I unerstand, though, that you can't see it that way, but that's how it is.


Oh, the arrogance--the "I am right and you are just too dense to realize it." What an argument. I am sure that you have done extensive research of the thought process of terrorists and therefore are an expert and speak with authority when you tell me what they are thinking. If not, your opinion is the same as mine--an OPINION.

I will continue to honor the tradition of my country and voice my dissent when it occurs and you can continue to be afraid of terrorists.
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Reply #8 February 16, 2005 10:38:36 AM
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I will continue to honor the tradition of my country and voice my dissent when it occurs and you can continue to be afraid of terrorists.
---Shades

Fine. You do that. And when they come and kill you in your sleep, your family can bury you with your "peace now" sign and I'll send flowers to your funeral.
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Reply #9 February 16, 2005 10:51:05 AM
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Reply By: aeryckPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005Hardly the ramblings of a 'twisted mind' I salute your rage.


not rage really, more like distain.. Ramblings is the name because i don't take my self as serious as some of the young lions here.
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Reply #10 February 16, 2005 10:52:25 AM
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Reply By: RightwingerPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005Hear, hear Modman. Another excellent article. Take it to the enemy. Backpats to you, mah man.....keep tellin'em


thank you, but I don't consider the liberals the enemy, more like the prodigal son.. that needs a good horse whipping
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Reply #11 February 16, 2005 10:53:47 AM
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Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005I would say one of your better issues, and well stated


thank you doc, just keeping the pressure on hoping to convert one of these lemonheads to a proper perspective on life.
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Reply #12 February 16, 2005 10:54:55 AM
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Reply By: MyrranderPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005*smirk*Poor Wormwood, feeding of the hate of others is so tiring, isn't it


* sniker* you should know, compared to the hatered you inspire I am a mere novice.
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Reply #13 February 16, 2005 10:56:25 AM
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Really?

Really.

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Reply #14 February 16, 2005 10:57:55 AM
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If the terrorists silence ONE person, they have won. If one war protestor doesn't voice their concern because they are afraid that speaking out against this administration will some how strengthen terrorism, al Qaeda has won. al Qaeda wants to rid the west of its freedom and prosperity--any move you make to quell American civil liberties helps them. Do not chastise fellow Americans for voicing their dissent--they are not empowering the terrorists. This country was founded on dissent, dissent against the crown. To bite our tongues now would be a great disservice to our fore fathers.


shades , I do not spew hate, more like a father chastizing his kids, furter more I never suggested that any american silence their voice, just wanted them to see it from the TERRORIST point of view and accept responsibility for what their actions bring.
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Reply #15 February 16, 2005 10:59:00 AM
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While I am not going to argue that Clinton did everything right in the foreign policy theatre, you are going to have a hard time convincing me that his policy was "weak ass." Have you forgotten about Northern Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement? What about Bosnia? Or the abiity of US officials under Clinton to dampen tensions between Greece and Turkey in the eastern Aegean? Or the Partnership for Peace facilitating military cooperation between West and East European countries? How about when the Clinton Administration worked to keep Mexico from the brink of economic disaster? I could go on.

Let's see, NOrthern Ireland.  Hmmm....that is a maybe.  Bosnia?  Uh, Exit Strategy and Chinese Embassies.  WOW!  Great there. NOT!  Greece and Turkey......Uh, he stopped a war?  Not.  The Tension is still there BTW.  ANd it will be until one is annihlated.

Clinton Sucked as a foreign policy president.  Pure and simple.

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Reply #16 February 16, 2005 11:00:30 AM
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Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005I unerstand, though, that you can't see it that way, but that's how it is.Oh, the arrogance--the "I am right and you are just too dense to realize it." What an argument. I am sure that you have done extensive research of the thought process of terrorists and therefore are an expert and speak with authority when you tell me what they are thinking. If not, your opinion is the same as mine--an OPINION.


shades have you ever stopped to think that in the eyes of the vietnamese people long ago in a forgotten war,,, I might have looked at things thru what could be considered the "eyes of a terrorist" the kind that kill people, sow discontent, spread fear. hmmmmmmmmm????
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Reply #17 February 16, 2005 11:04:35 AM
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Fine. You do that. And when they come and kill you in your sleep, your family can bury you with your "peace now" sign and I'll send flowers to your funeral.


I'll take my chances of being killed in my sleep, but I refuse to live in fear or allow terrorists to alter the way that I live my life.
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Reply #18 February 16, 2005 11:04:56 AM
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will continue to honor the tradition of my country and voice my dissent when it occurs and you can continue to be afraid of terrorists.


good shades never stop. that's what being free is all about, just accept it has an adverse affect. ok?

I am not hardly afraid of terrorist, what are they going to do, kill a sick ol man, already tired. I have had my time in the sun, and the dark too, If my life would stop this war and the senseless destruction by religious maniacs and KEEP america safe , I would gladly lay my life down! would you?
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Reply #19 February 16, 2005 11:08:01 AM
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Reply By: Dr. GuyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005


Clinton Sucked as a foreign policy president. Pure and simple


altho I grit my teeth on any attack on my guy bill, I ahve to agree, sucked is far to kind a word. weak assed is what I said and it's what I mean.
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Reply #20 February 16, 2005 11:09:40 AM
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Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005Fine. You do that. And when they come and kill you in your sleep, your family can bury you with your "peace now" sign and I'll send flowers to your funeral.I'll take my chances of being killed in my sleep, but I refuse to live in fear or allow terrorists to alter the way that I live my life.


here! here! never surrender to fear.
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Reply #21 February 16, 2005 11:18:56 AM
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I don't fear the terrorists, either, because my country is doing what it can to make me and mine safe and keep us out of harm's way. For three years going on four, they've done that job admirably, even though the Left cries foul every time someone mentions the Patriot Act, and holds the Bush Administration in contempt for its efforts at Homeland security (if we were subject to repeated attacks, I'm sure they'd be bitching about that, too).

I do admire and even applaud Shades' fortitude in pursuing that system of belief, but you're right, Modman, when you say that it has a downside that the peaceniks just don't get.
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Reply #22 February 16, 2005 11:23:02 AM
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do admire and even applaud Shades' fortitude in pursuing that system of belief, but you're right, Modman, when you say that it has a downside that the peaceniks just don't get.


Thats all I want from this post. That they should see what their behavior reaps.
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Reply #23 February 16, 2005 11:23:15 AM
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I'm sorry, I want to respond but the page is all screwy and I don't have the patience to deal with it at the moment, so this will be brief...

just wanted them to see it from the TERRORIST point of view and accept responsibility for what their actions bring.


Terrorists are responsible for their own actions. I do not force them to kill or injure--no matter what I say or do, I do not have control over bin Laden and I am not responsible for what he does. If we want to argue this way, I could say that the burning of Beruit foreshadowed 9/11 and the US and Israeli governments should take responsibility for it. It is ludicris. Yes, the US government breeds resentment around the world; however, to say that resent is a justification for mass murder is beyond laughable. By the same token to say that my dissent against the government is aids the terrorists is laughable.

that needs a good horse whipping

and you wonder why I think you are full of hate. I will have my opinions, you have yours. I do not need to be horse whipped into agreement with you.

Let's see, NOrthern Ireland. Hmmm....that is a maybe

Clinton was critical to the Good Friday Agreement. He made a crucial call at the last minute before negotiations were finalized and sealed the deal. In addition, the negotiations would have gone no where if it weren't for George Mitchell. You can not deny a Clinton success here. The process was working through the end of the Clinton presidency. The fact that Bush did not engage the Troubles with the same vigor as Clinton did should not reflect on Clinton's foreign policy, but Bush's.

Like I said, I don't think Clinton was the best, but he was a far cry from "weak assed."

shades have you ever stopped to think that in the eyes of the vietnamese people long ago in a forgotten war,,, I might have looked at things thru what could be considered the "eyes of a terrorist" the kind that kill people, sow discontent, spread fear. hmmmmmmmmm????


Are you comparing the US Army to al Qaeda? I don't think that there is the same training behind a government army and a terrorist army--the US Army doesn't try to kill innocent civilians (the last time I checked). You will have many socialist-lefties loving your analogy and I am sure many members of the military would be disgusted.

I would gladly lay my life down! would you?


It depends on the conditions. Why die now to end a war if it will only start again tomorrow? I can do more good working for peace alive than dying for a five minute respite in war.
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Reply #24 February 16, 2005 11:33:08 AM
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Reply By: shadesofgreyPosted: Wednesday, February 16, 2005I'm sorry, I want to respond but the page is all screwy and I don't have the patience to deal with it at the moment, so this will be brief...just wanted them to see it from the TERRORIST point of view and accept responsibility for what their actions bring.Terrorists are responsible for their own actions. I do not force them to kill or injure--


Ok this is a prime example of why I harp on liberals.... avoidence of any real answere. just deflections. GOOD liberal non answere shades.
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Reply #25 February 16, 2005 11:35:32 AM
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Are you comparing the US Army to al Qaeda? I don't think that there is the same training behind a government army and a terrorist army--the US Army doesn't try to kill innocent civilians (the last time I checked). You will have many socialist-lefties loving your analogy and I am sure many members of the military would be disgusted.


no I am not comparing them to al qaeda... but get real. if you think the seals, force recon, green berets and delta force are not trained in a form of terrorism, your much more unconcious than I thought.
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