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Why don't user points go down?

Ok, this doesn't make sense, someone explain this to me:
       Blogs have points, users have points, this is good. Blog points appear to be a total for only the past 30 days, anything before that isn't used for the total and only shows up when people ask the blog nicely.
       In other words, only the blogs that are good (popular, read, whatever) recently will have points. The ones that are bad (unpopular, unread, whatever) won't have points and will therefore sink to the bottom of the list.
       This makes sense, this looks to be a good idea, I even like this idea. Without effort of some sort any given blog won't stay very high in the rankings. Not a perfect system, since points don't necesarily mean best, but all in all I think it's a good way to tell which blogs are good. Won't tell you if blog number 12 is really better then blog number 13, but hopefully blog number 7 is better then blog number 97.
       So here's what I want explained: Why don't user points do the same thing?
       We have so called 'exiled' users that are above current bloggers in the user chart. As far as I can tell, a user can really only lose points one way, getting trolled by another user.
       Take Wisefawn for example. They are number 18 in the user chart, yet they have been banned for almost two months. Am I the only one that finds this odd? Nothing against Wisefawn, I'm not trying to pick on them, it's the point system I find odd.
       Now I'm not saying all banned people cause this sort of effect, last time I checked we had someone with a rather high negative score. But it would seem me that it would be better to use the same general scoring system for users as is used for blogs. ie, if you don't keep posting your score drifts towards zero.
       Considering that the code exists for the blogs points, it shouldn't be that hard to convert it to the users, but then again, I'm not a programmer. That it wasn't setup this way originally implies a reason, although I can't see it.
       So if anyone knows the reason, I'd like to hear it. If anyone thinks it would be better changed, well that would be nice to hear too. Or if you think it's great the way it is, well that's fine too.

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Maybe set it in such way that being banned is kinda like super-ultra-mega troll button with -10,000 points?

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That would work for banned people, but it isn't just that. What of people that havn't posted in a long time? Their scores would still be high. I could see where it would show who had been around for a bit, who had spoken out alot, even if not recently. But I think it should reflect in some way your still being around, or not. Although, that might be why it was set up the way it one, one score to show the current good stuff and another to show the all time good people?

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This makes sense, this looks to be a good idea, I even like this idea. Without effort of some sort any given blog won't stay very high in the rankings. Not a perfect system, since points don't necesarily mean best, but all in all I think it's a good way to tell which blogs are good. Won't tell you if blog number 12 is really better then blog number 13, but hopefully blog number 7 is better then blog number 97.

Ugh.

Having been here quite a while I can honestly say the score is not a reflection of quality, but almost solely a reflection of activity. The more active a person is, the higher their score will be, the less active the lower the score. (Assuming the person is decent and doesn't get themselves trolled out of existence.)

When I was hanging out here way too much I got up to User #36 and my blog was in the top 20. Now that I rarely post comments or articles my scores are lower. If I wanted to put a little effort into it, I'd be in the top 10 or top 15 by the end of the month. Same articles, same comments, same writer, same writing.

Back when highly rated Dan Kaschel got banned, someone made a comment to the effect of how popular Dan had been. Brad responded with something like, "He wasn't popular, just prolific." That says it all.

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I'll agree, score doesn't always mean quality. But the question was really about why there are different numbering schemes for blogs and users. Maybe I should have phrased it differently?

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No, I understood your question. That was the only part I felt like commenting on, though.

Only the admins could give you a definitive answer, but I'm willing to speculate.

Brad has said that eventually there will be multiple versions for all the tallies: 30-day, Daily, Lifetime, etc. The instituting of it is just one of those things on the back burner while StarDock focuses on non-free sites. (Technically JU hasn't been officially released yet.) I would imagine the reason one currently has a 30-day total and one has a Lifetime total is to make a span of different results available till they get to the fuller implementation they plan. This way we can still have a form of "All Time Best" and "Most Recent Favorites" while we're waiting.

But that's just my speculation.

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