An update to this, I tracked it down to a group policy setting. I have a GPO that ONLY does one thing. It applies a proxy server to IE. That is the one and only thing it does. As soon as the proxy server is applied, start 8 stops working. It also seems to take about 5 extra seconds for the start8 icon to show up, almost like it is timing out when it cant check activation or something. Any help?