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August 11, 2012 4:14:55 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

So:

I hear alot about bomber spam. Im trying it myself. Kind of cowardly, no doubt, but it works. It feels cheap though. What % bombers/fighters do you use? Do you have any close range attack vessels or do you run around the perimenter of the grav well while your bombers do the heavy lifting?

What speed do MP games take place? How is that controlled? I dont see how people are able to have large fleets/lots of caps and be able to micro the cap abilities. What are you playing at, speed 1X?

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Reply #1 August 12, 2012 8:37:03 AM
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Regarding bomber spam--you're probably going to want to run your carriers around the perimeter and keep them away from combat if you can.  As with anything, bomber spam can be countered, especially by a defending Vasari (phasic trap ability on hangers).

The standard settings for an online multiplayer PvP game (no AI) are:

Locked Teams

Normal Fleet size

Pirates Off

Quickstart on

Faster for all speed settings.

 

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Reply #2 August 12, 2012 3:53:58 PM
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I go either all bombers or all fighters...as far as I'm concerned, it's an all or nothing deal...anything else seems pretty wishy washy to me....

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Reply #3 August 12, 2012 3:59:42 PM
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I do about a 93/7 ratio of bombers to fighters

Just a few fighters to help keep the numbers of enemy bombers down

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Reply #4 August 12, 2012 6:31:41 PM
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Hmm bomber spam isn't cheap at all.  It also has several serious counters, even late game.  Ever see what 50 flak and 50 LF with close factories nearby can do to bomber spam?  Don't forget a corvette swarm as well.  Attrition is how you deal with it, and it works. 

Its just wicked.

bomber spam is the most balanced its ever been, and i'd go so far to say that it is quite balanced at the moment, and not a real concern for any balance changes in rebellion.

If you find yourself not being able to counter bomber spam, look at your strategy.

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Reply #5 August 13, 2012 8:09:55 PM
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No I havent seen it..What do Light Frigates (LF) do against bombers? I thought only flak frigates damage bombers. What are corvette swarms good for, dont they die en masse in the face of AoE?

Are fighters really effective against bombers? I mean, the carriers just rebuild the bombers in no time. How many fighters do you need against 100 advent bombers for effective suppression?

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Reply #6 August 13, 2012 8:40:51 PM
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LFs don't do anything to bombers - they are good at killing the source of the bombers though...

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Reply #7 August 13, 2012 9:30:11 PM
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Fighters are very effective. You need roughly one fighter squadron for every two bomber squadrons. Thsi will knock out enemy bombers fairly quickly. 

 

Quoting Toddwp,
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 How many fighters do you need against 100 advent bombers for effective suppression?

You need at least 50 fighter squadrons to counter effectively and quickly. About 30 will reduce the 100 bombers but wont knock them out until their carriers run out of antimatter, which takes a long time. 

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Reply #8 August 13, 2012 11:30:07 PM
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Quoting A_Wooden_Spoon,
reply 8
You need at least 50 fighter squadrons to counter effectively and quickly. About 30 will reduce the 100 bombers but wont knock them out until their carriers run out of antimatter, which takes a long time.

That assumes no enemy flak eating your fighters...

Early bomber spam can be dealt with via corvettes + disciples...if coupled with titan, that's a little more difficult, you'll have to go with fighters, flak, and/or corvettes (flak and corvettes would be microed to avoid titan AoEs)....

Late game though, the only thing that's really effective is multiple caps with anti-SC abilties...that's multiple Kols, Halcyons, or Kortuls...fighters/flak combined with multiple anti-SC caps will work pretty well, though you may lose some caps depending on what faction you are and the stats of your caps (number/levels)....

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Reply #9 August 14, 2012 12:18:39 PM
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Quoting Ekko_Tek,
reply 7
LFs don't do anything to bombers - they are good at killing the source of the bombers though...
Which he obviously implied...

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