Hahahahaha - good one!

Solutions:

L2P vs. something other than the AI.

On the off chance that this isn't a troll post:

Vasari Loyalists with Stripped to the Core in effect can eat their own starting planets and get such a blitzkrieg economic boost going that they can quickly steamroll any non VL players by having a much larger fleet sooner. Yes, if you doddle and lollygag and generally  lose your window of opportunity and let the other players' (or AI's) conventional economy slowly catch up, then you have lost your chance but that is not how to play VL full mobile.

You're missing the point of his post. Who actually strips their homeworld when you can send evacutators to the middle of the map or your neighbors sphere of influence and strip worlds you couldn't even hold in the first place? He's not saying STTC is under powered, but that there is no reason to strip every planet you own, since it allows you to stay in the game if your titan gets destroyed and produce the capitalships and frigates you choose, as well as replace your titan actually.

I understand that, but he does bring up a good point. Just replace his solutions with civilian evacuations and shipboard labs only working if you own no planets. Now that would lead to some interesting games and make VL actually risky to play.

You are also missing the point. I understand that STTC is very OP as it is now. What im trying to do is give people a reason to completely strip all their planets by making the techs weaker if they don't. This way if they want the full benefit of the VL techs they have to accept all the risks that come with having only your titan to keep you in the game. And my num 4 suggestion is much more of a nerf to the ability then a buff. As it is now you get more ships then the amount of resources you put in. With my suggestion you are now paying 2-3 times as much for the same units so its no longer cost effective. And also if you read the 3rd suggestion you would realize that it would make strip rushing impossible. If you have enough labs to research ship board labs you would probably only get .5-1 lab for the caps that you own. and if you destroy all of your planets to get the full benefit you would lose the labs on those planets meaning you still don't have enough to research STTC you would also need your titan to destroy all your planets without losing. This combined with pushing STTC to tier 7/8 would mean the only way to get STTC is A. build labs the normal way and wait until later in the game to get it. or B. destroy all of your worlds and build a titan which is incredibly expensive and time consuming and if you lose the titan you now lose the game.

Perhaps such buffs would be needed if amunt of resources STTC gives gets significantly nerfed.

This would actually be counter-productive. If you get more income from it when you use while having fewer planets you are encouraged to strip any of your planets and every new one you acquire, lest you lose out on potential income from SttC. It would make the locust mentality even more attractive.

Personally I don't like the design idea of forcing a player to go fully mobile with penalities if he doesn't. I'd prefer to see a way to have pros and cons to playing fully mobile or to keep your planets and benefit from the extra logistics slots.

Also, apologies to excartus for being so harsh initially, I can see now you aren't trolling and are actually trying to think about this.

Shipboard labs current state is what allows STTC to come so quick. I like the idea of simply making the Titan a pre-req in the gravity well of any planet being stripped as a solution to try first. The additional costs and time to do that might be enough to balance it. STTC could be researched in advance but won't bring resources from stripping planets until the Titan is present.

Why two threads though? - this is already all covered in this one: https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/427264

Hmm - that's still where you have it wrong though. It is already viable. By the time you actually have stripped all your planets you have steamrolled the galaxy if you are doing it right so you don't need to worry that you only have your Titan. You have it wrong when you think people only strip neutral and enemy worlds. That isn't what they do. You are right in that right now people can get the stripping benefits and keep some planets as well without any downside. With your suggestions, what people would do though is still strip their own planets, but 100% of them this time, get all the bonuses you are suggesting (40% increased tax income for example), then steamroll as usual, and then if they are concerned at all about their Titan being vulnerable, just take over a few planets with the massive force they already have - who cares at that point if they incur some shipboard lab penalties?

Once again this only works now. Once they nerf STTC i doubt you will be able to do this without repercussions. You are also missing the point right now people can have the best of both worlds. The massive income of STTC and free logistics slots of ship board labs while still holding on to planets so you wont lose the game if your titan dies and retaining access to factories and the kostura cannon. Im trying to force them to choose one or the other.