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Go Big or Go Home Achievement Problem

I won but didn't get the Achievement

April 23, 2012 10:53:54 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

Played a game the other day as an Advent and won with only Capital ships and a Titan but didn't get the achievement.  What gives?

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Reply #1 April 23, 2012 10:59:22 AM
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woops, titan isnt a capital ship.

 

this, might be a bug?

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Reply #2 April 23, 2012 11:04:36 AM
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I guess that's my question, isn't it a captial ship?  You have to have 2 captial slots to get one.

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Reply #3 April 23, 2012 11:08:05 AM
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Quoting Paul Davitt,
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I guess that's my question, isn't it a captial ship? You have to have 2 captial slots to get one.


I believe I read in a change log they made titans count for the "kill X faction's capital ship" quest, so you'd THINK so...

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Reply #4 April 23, 2012 1:04:43 PM
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Did you have quick start on? If so, those free scout ships prevent you from getting it.

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Reply #5 April 23, 2012 1:06:06 PM
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Do SC invalidate this achievement?  If so, perhaps you built a hangar or you built some on your capital.

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Reply #6 April 23, 2012 1:12:49 PM
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Two things, I made sure to turn off Quick Start and just went back to before I built a Titan (or the foundry) and when I won I still didn't get the Achievement.  Not sure what you mean by "SC".

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Reply #7 April 23, 2012 1:17:57 PM
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Strikecraft, and I really doubt those invalidate it.

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Reply #8 April 23, 2012 2:43:09 PM
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You had no scouts, no starbase constructors, no colony frigs?

If so then that's weird, I got the achievement fine using just caps (no titan), strikecraft were okay.

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Reply #9 April 23, 2012 2:45:07 PM
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Thanks for the info!  Initial tests seem to point towards the scouts given by 'quick start', but it looks like that might not be the only culprit.  We'll continue to investigate.

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Reply #10 April 23, 2012 3:22:59 PM
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No scouts, no colony frigates, nothing.  And I turned off Quick Start to make sure I didn't get any scouts to start.  Heck, the first thing I did was scuttle the frigate factory to make sure I didn't make any by mistake.

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Reply #11 April 23, 2012 3:27:27 PM
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Quoting Paul Davitt,
reply 10
No scouts, no colony frigates, nothing.  And I turned off Quick Start to make sure I didn't get any scouts to start.  Heck, the first thing I did was scuttle the frigate factory to make sure I didn't make any by mistake.
Most likely it is caused by the Titan...

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Reply #12 April 23, 2012 3:39:36 PM
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Yeah, but I went back and replay from before I made a Titan.  Though I have tried from before I made the Titian Factroy.

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Reply #13 April 23, 2012 4:12:41 PM
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I dont think starbase constructors should count as cruisers. They should count as capital ships. So vasari would need a new contructor.

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Reply #14 April 23, 2012 4:27:39 PM
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And why, exactly? I mean is there any reason to mess up the current constructor system? Anything horribly broken about them?

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Reply #15 April 23, 2012 5:31:52 PM
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Just replayed again, before I made the Titan Factory and still no joy.  Guess I'm going to try a brand new game and see if I can replicate it.

 

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Reply #16 April 23, 2012 7:25:08 PM
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I've had trouble with this too. I think it might be that some abilities turn enemy ships into your faction, so maybe that counts? Using the Corsov's Boarding Action, the Advent Loyalist Titan's "I'll shoot you 'til you're on my side" guns or the Advent battle-cruisers ability to turn a foe to one of your ships might count towards you building them for yourself. The last time I got this achievement was as TEC in Diplomacy 1.0 or thereabouts and they had no abilities like this back then, so this might be the problem.

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Reply #17 April 23, 2012 7:42:58 PM
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As far as I have witnessed not all achievements work yet. Had a couple myself that didn't work but that was just before I went away for a while, thus didn't report it.

What I would try is doing it without building strikecraft. Don't know if you tried already?

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Reply #18 April 24, 2012 9:52:01 AM
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Quoting foxfax,
reply 16
I've had trouble with this too. I think it might be that some abilities turn enemy ships into your faction, so maybe that counts? Using the Corsov's Boarding Action, the Advent Loyalist Titan's "I'll shoot you 'til you're on my side" guns or the Advent battle-cruisers ability to turn a foe to one of your ships might count towards you building them for yourself. The last time I got this achievement was as TEC in Diplomacy 1.0 or thereabouts and they had no abilities like this back then, so this might be the problem.
Of course you cannot use abilities that give you enemy frigates, or call in pairate reinforcements, or revieve fallen enemy ships. No Frigttes means no frigates. If you want to make sure nothing bad happens play TEC Loyalists versus easy AI. That way you can go for "Go big or go home", "no exhaust port found" and "best defense is a good offence" all in one go (Yes I did that on one of the small maps).

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Reply #19 April 24, 2012 12:26:44 PM
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i once went through my starting routine - ie. i buolt a coloniser but then cancelled 1/2 though after i remembered i was going for this achievement

quick start was off (cap ships only no titan) did not get the achievement

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