Koa .... thanks for the help but I guess I'm more "thick" than I care to admit. I did as you suggested but I noticed no change. If you load "CopperDeck II" and open the "All Programs" menu there is a graphic being used for "hover" I would think then that there would be a way to also do this on the "Start" menu, I guess I'm wrong. Thanks for your help!!

If anybody wants to enlighten both myself and Koa, we're not going anywhere ... thanks.


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On the Start menu.

The 'Start Menu' hover graphic is the same one as the 'Pull Down Item' graphic. It work's everywhere on the start menu except on 'All Programs' as Koasati mentioned you can only change the color of the there. Someone correct this if this info is wrong.

Well, it seems that I just can't figure it out and maybe I just can't do what I want to do anyways.


Thanks for your help people, it's appreciated.

I've liked that tip so much that I'm expecting to use it on every skin I make in future...a fairly easy way to take control of a bit that otherwise remains as a default.

Satans Child. Take another look at the skin. Specifically, open the Stetz Folder in your Windowblinds folder. Have a look at the OliveStartPanelMoreProgArrow.bmp.

He made all three states of the arrow large enough to cover the More Programs panel background, the hover background color and the All Programs text so that you never see them no matter which state is active. His is a solid color because that fits his theme. Yours can be glassy or fuzzy or even psychedelic and animated if you want. Just make the three-image-tiled bitmaps the way you want them.

Shameless D .... that is a great solution, I would have never thought of that, thanks for the tip!! I'll be trying that right after work.


Thanks

As I said, I think this is going to be the default way I deal with the All Programs skinning in future - but there are a few little glitches I've noticed with this which people should know in case they wonder:

1) There is a noticable "flicker" when the mouse-over changes when the default background colour is displayed.
2) The Arrow button only ever seems to display 2 of the 3 states - the default and mouse-over. As far as I can tell, the clicked state isn't used.
3) ...I'm sure there was something else I noticed when working on this a week ago, but I've forgotten it now

Çërêb®øJÐ - thats it I think...That's the other odd thing I noticed, ta.
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I had forgotten about that nifty innovation................. so much to keep track of, so little brain.....
I've started taking notes.. 

I changed my options from "show menu on hover" to "show menu when clicked" so I do have a click image.

with so many skins out there, I would hope that stardock might consider just changing the labeling of the states in SkinStudio

The problem doesn't just affect Skin Studio, though. Ultimately it affects Windowblinds. So your idea would make things easier for the people who were aware of the glitch when they created their skin, but what about those that created their graphics in what they thought was the proper order using Skin Studio, or those who created a WB without using Skin Studio?

No matter how they make the change in Skin Studio, some folks will have their skins affected unless the skin author made the graphics for pressed and mouse-over states the same, or doesn't care which one shows.

P.S. Having thought about it a bit more, if they only relabel the states in Skin Studio, and make no change in WB, then people who were aware of the error when they created their skin and compensated for the glitch by switching graphics will be the ones whose skins would be affected as described above unless they made the graphics for the pressed and mouse-over states the same. In either case, making them identical seems to me the only safe bet until the glitch is sorted in one program or the other.
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