Fun with Elemental: War of Magic v1.1 » Forum Post by Frogboy

Quoting LujanD,

As far as I could tell, Brad was showing off the game and NOT his skills. I can see how it's amusing and definitely worth a good ribbing but there's no need for spite.

What Lujan said.

To be fair, it makes sense that if one was going to make a demo of the game in a very short amount of play time, one would choose to research Logistics before Equipment, because of the extra time needed to pump out a group unit. Likewise it makes sense that one would charge their units rather than reposition in order to move things along. Or that one would rush into the war before the economy was ready for it.

But it's still funny.

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I would just like it if the AI would use shields sometimes, I have yet to ever see one on an AI troop. Any chance we can have an ETA on the AI using that equipment?

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Quoting LujanD,

reply 48

Quoting Aeon221, reply 45Not sure where the spite comment comes in, since I repeatedly apologized and provided massive :words: of feedback...

Who said I was talking about you?

So you weren't referring to Aeon221, but who were you referring to? I'm curious, as the only thing even remotely 'spiteful' here was fearzone's comment regarding some unnamed person having never been laid.

If folks are going to cast aspersions, courtesy dictates specifying, lest 'innocents' are smeared or think they're the ones referred to (as Aeon221 did).

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Quoting Nick-Danger,

reply 53

So you weren't referring to Aeon221, but who were you referring to? I'm curious, as the only thing even remotely 'spiteful' here was fearzone's comment regarding some unnamed person having never been laid.

If folks are going to cast aspersions, courtesy dictates specifying, lest 'innocents' are smeared or think they're the ones referred to (as Aeon221 did).

Nick-Danger, is it really for the sake of courtesy, or to sate your own curiosity? I'd think one should be capable of telling the intent of their own comment.

Yes, there were a few people I had in mind but I'd rather not cry witch and spark a fight as that'd be... Well, discourteous. Ha, 'courtesy' must be a hypocrite. And, of course, there's always the chance that I'm wrong and they were part of the "good ribbing" crowd. In which case, a general warning will do.

That said, this has nothing to do with the topic.

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Quoting LujanD,

reply 54

Nick-Danger, is it really for the sake of courtesy, or to sate your own curiosity?

Regarding curiosity -- I'm curious as to who you think was being spiteful, as I saw nothing that fit that insult.

Regarding courtesy -- if one is going to accuse someone of spitefulness, it is courteous to have the nads to stand behind it by specifying who/what. That courtesy allows others to judge the merits of your accusation, and prevents those you aren't referring to to know they're not the target (as with Aeon...).

That you're unwilling and/or unable to point out just who/what was in your opinion 'spiteful' buttresses my point and purpose.

That said, this has nothing to do with the topic.

You instigated this with your unspecified allegation, which had nothing to do with this topic, served no good purpose, and detracted from the discussion.

Perhaps next time you'll refrain from this behavior, to the betterment of our discussions here? Or perhaps not...

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So, what is the future development plan for Elemental? When can we expect 1.2 and/or 1st expansion?

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Quoting Nick-Danger,

reply 55

I'm curious as to who you think was being spiteful, as I saw nothing that fit that insult.

Good for you?

If one is going to accuse someone of spitefulness, it is courteous to have the nads to stand behind it by specifying who/what.

While you're picking apart trivial (made up?) courtesies to bolster your rhetoric, might I suggest that you don't smear the name of others based on rough guesswork, derail the topic, insinuate that I'm casting aspersions when you can't even name a target, presume you have a right to be such a pompous know-it-all, etc.

That courtesy allows others to judge the merits of your accusation, and prevents those you aren't referring to to know they're not the target (as with Aeon...).

So you're upset because I hadn't provided the platform you needed for a debate on the targets? Err, and this would help this thread, myself and everyone else, how? Might I reiterate that I don't want to pick a fight with random peo~ Oh, snap!

As for Aeon, that was solved rather quickly. I pointed out he was not my target. End of discussion. I saw no tears, promises of revenge, etc. I may have peeked a nut or two baring arms on the side but... that's a tale for another day.

That you're unwilling and/or unable to point out just who/what was in your opinion 'spiteful' buttresses my point and purpose.

And your purpose would be... to derail the thread, to start a fight with me, to display your righteous wrath at my "clearly" heinous transgression, to force me to swallow your subjective morality, etc?

But, yeah, you're right, I should totally air my assumptions and start a fight with them too! Woo!

You instigated this with your unspecified allegation, which had nothing to do with this topic, served no good purpose, and detracted from the discussion.

So, my comment on how I perceived the video was off-topic simply because you wanted to nitpick "spite"... Wow, I thought I hated your flimsy moral code but I think I hate your LOS more.

Yeah... So... Feel free to carry on without me.

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Quoting Nick-Danger,

reply 55

Quoting LujanD, reply 54Nick-Danger, is it really for the sake of courtesy, or to sate your own curiosity?Regarding curiosity -- I'm curious as to who you think was being spiteful, as I saw nothing that fit that insult.

Regarding courtesy -- if one is going to accuse someone of spitefulness, it is courteous to have the nads to stand behind it by specifying who/what. That courtesy allows others to judge the merits of your accusation, and prevents those you aren't referring to to know they're not the target (as with Aeon...).

That you're unwilling and/or unable to point out just who/what was in your opinion 'spiteful' buttresses my point and purpose.

That said, this has nothing to do with the topic.You instigated this with your unspecified allegation, which had nothing to do with this topic, served no good purpose, and detracted from the discussion.

Perhaps next time you'll refrain from this behavior, to the betterment of our discussions here? Or perhaps not...

Nick, why don't you mind your own business? You are derailing the thread, if you want to talk to him about this then send a private message.

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Quoting BlackRainZ,

reply 58

Nick, why don't you mind your own business?

The measure of whether advice is valid is whether the offerer follows their own advice.

If replying to his unspecified accusation isn't my business, then my reply to him isn't yours. Thus you're not following your own advice.

Nicely done!

You are derailing the thread, if you want to talk to him about this then send a private message.

Again, you're doing exactly what you condemn me for -- 'derailing', and not using a PM.

Nicely done again!

Unspecified accusation, such as LujanD's, derail threads. Holding him accountable will hopefully dissuade such behaviors in the future. That's a positive.

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Quoting LujanD,

reply 57

... insinuate that I'm casting aspersions when you can't even name a target...

You cast aspersions without naming who/what, I asked who/what, you refuse to name your target, and now you're attacking me for not naming who/what you refuse to name?

lol

...presume you have a right to be such a pompous know-it-all, etc.

Stooping to insults -- lol

But, yeah, you're right, I should totally air my assumptions and start a fight with them too! Woo!

Not start a fight, just have the courtesy to say who/what you're calling spiteful, else not say it. And if/when questioned on it, have the courtesy to say who/what, and participate in a civil discussion about it.

So, my comment on how I perceived the video was off-topic simply because you wanted to nitpick "spite"...

You made an unspecified accusation of someone being spiteful. Wanting to know who/what you think is spiteful is 'nitpicking'?

Okey-dokey...

Wow, I thought I hated your flimsy moral code but I think I hate your LOS more.

Asking who/what you think is spiteful here is sufficient to engender 'hate'?

Yeah... So... Feel free to carry on without me.

The trouble with Drama Queen pronouncements like this is those that make them are seldom able to adhere to them...

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Actually, it does become my business because I am trying to read what people are saying about this game and instead have to look at posts by you that have nothing to do with the topic. I guess I will just report you to the moderator since you wouldn't take some friendly advice.

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kryo

Join Date 05/2003

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Unspecified accusation, such as LujanD's, derail threads.

So does arguing about it. So just drop it and stay on topic, all of you.

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So are we going to get a stable build for 1.2? as the OOM crash issue after 200-300+ turns is still occuring.

I posted about it earlier yet my post despite being totally true and very polite was removed anyway, which is interesting are we sweeping issues under the carpet now? or is mention of continuing issues suddenly verboten?

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NeoWolfen.. its not sweeping under the carpet.. its there are already 3000 threads that say the same thing.. try joining them, we all love mega threads!

Its not an issue for everyone.. i for one haven't had one crash, but i don't know if how good the computer is affects it though.

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Quoting Draconis123,

reply 64

NeoWolfen.. its not sweeping under the carpet.. its there are already 3000 threads that say the same thing.. try joining them, we all love mega threads!

Its not an issue for everyone.. i for one haven't had one crash, but i don't know if how good the computer is affects it though.

Only one crash here after many many hours of turns turns and turns +1 turn to make it safe....since I got the game 1st week of December.

I'm really liking this game...can't wait for expansions/mods...

-.-

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Quoting Draconis123,

reply 64

NeoWolfen.. its not sweeping under the carpet.. its there are already 3000 threads that say the same thing.. try joining them, we all love mega threads!

Its not an issue for everyone.. i for one haven't had one crash, but i don't know if how good the computer is affects it though.

@Draconic123

So because you don't have an issue those of who do "still" should just move along? yeah don't think so. I have been very polite and patient on the subject and you sir shall not sway me from that. So troll elsewhere the issue is far from being a "limited to a handful" issue and has been a recurring issue despite every patch since release. Now as you dobn't work for Stardock and therefore do not have anything relevant to the issue beyond "it doesnt affect you " (yay for you) I will continue to direct my comments to them as I "was" doing as I too would like a copy of this game that actually works for me as it should too if thats alright with you?

So anyway...

@Stardock

the OOm issue still occuring and I am far far from using an old machine its actually high end.

also the DLC from the Destiny's Embers no longer appears in game since the 1.1 patch all the characters etc..have gone from the list. Somethign else you might want to take a look at.

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I think hes just trying to say that you don't need to post in every thread about the out of memory issue when there are many posts about it already. This journal is about some fun that Brad is having with the game and you are posting about out of memory issues. This is not the place for it. Post in the support forum.

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Quoting NeoWolfen,

reply 66

@Draconic123

So because you don't have an issue those of who do "still" should just move along? yeah don't think so. I have been very polite and patient on the subject and you sir shall not sway me from that. So troll elsewhere the issue is far from being a "limited to a handful" issue and has been a recurring issue despite every patch since release. Now as you dobn't work for Stardock and therefore do not have anything relevant to the issue beyond "it doesnt affect you " (yay for you) I will continue to direct my comments to them as I "was" doing as I too would like a copy of this game that actually works for me as it should too if thats alright with you?

I never indicated anyone should "just move along", and no im not trolling. (an example of trolling in my opinion would be "hey bob STFU go play Sims you noob" or something immature on my part like that (which i'm sure you don't want to do cos Sims sucks!)) i think you might have misread my meaning.
What i was pointing to was you complaining that YOUR thread had been deleted or ignored or whatever and therefore SD was brushing the issue under the carpet was probably incorrect.
I was saying there are many other threads that mention the same issue and you should support one of those if you have that particular issue, as i agree it shouldn't be happening at this point in development of a game.
its much easier for a developer to have all issues together so they can read through them easier to help fix the issue.

I then stated that for me in particular I haven't had that issue, not discrediting your issues, just showing others that this isn't something plaguing everyone who has purchased this game. (I certainly never indicated that only a handful have this issue)

And i certainly hope that as soon as possible you get a version of this game that does work for you without crashing, as i know from 1.09 it wasn't fun having this happen.

I i agree you have been polite and patient which is fantastic as getting aggressive never helps anyone and probably discourages reading.

Also happy holidays YAY

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@Aeon221

You sound insufferable. I bet if I met you in real like I'd hate you with a passion.

It's bloody obvious that the demo video is just a bit of fun showcasing some game mechanics, I doubt he's even paying much attention to what he's doing.

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I have to say that the terraform spells are my favorite. I learned to abuse the Volcano spell... Screw teleport tactics. Just teleport your sovereign/a spell caster outside of the city with their leader and Curgen's Volcano that place. Unless they have deathward, it's an instant win. I'm loving what's been done with the game so far though. Keep up the great work!

My complaints are simple (maybe not to implement though...):

(1) There are no high level spells any more. Once you get past level 7, there's nothing.

(2) Also, I think that the schools/literacy tree shouldn't follow better housing, because it takes a while to get there sometimes. Maybe it should follow Guilds...

And as a follow up to number 2, (3)If I upgrade to villas late in the game, with like 4+ cities, it crashes the game when all houses simultaneously upgrade.

(4) Elemental is still eating up my processor power and crashing the game when there's nothing left for it to consume.

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6:50 nice to see that the good old "can place multiple copies of the same unique building" bug still isnt fixed.

(note how the Study is still selected and ready to be placed even after being placed once already)

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