personally, i believe once you breach the speed of light, you go back in time relative to the speed and distance you travel, so that you arrive at about the same time you left. but thats just me. i of course have no proof, but it makes more sense than if you break the speed of light you instantly get thrown back to medieval times...

Time is supposed to slow down, relative to C and the traveler. So, time (external to the traveler) should stop if the traveler is moving at the speed of light - and possibly reverse if the traveler was exceeding the speed of light.

But under that model, the speed of light (in a total vacuum of anything) and the rate/force of time are one and the same.

But then... what is time, exactly? How do you quantify it?

Is it absolute, or is it relative?

If it is relative to something else, then it is an abstract.

If it is an absolute, then it is a force - much like the force of gravity.

But wait... Gravity is counter-productive to time as well.

The most severe gravity well - a black hole - shreds time. Time slows down when entering a gravity well (like a black hole, or a planet...).

So, gravity also slows the progress of time. Time passes at a faster rate in totally unoccupied space, than it does in the presence of a mass that produces gravity.

That would suggest that time is a force, as opposed to a mere relative reference point of our making. It also suggests that gravity is a counter force to the force of time.

Guess what?

Time, here on our little planet, flows slower than it does in an environment with less (or no) gravity.

Which means that 6-10 thousand years of our subjective time may well equate to over 15-20 billion years of absolute universal time. After all, space is mostly empty of anything.

I doubt that Hubble, or any other telescope, will ever find 'the beginning' of our universe. There will always be something further back to see. Why? Because the formation of the universe creates a feedback loop, to an outside observer. The formation of the forces involved were occurring at supraliminal speeds, which excludes the possibility of external viewing.

We will never see the actual 'Big Bang' via a 'Super Hubble'!

time is simply a measurement used to quantify the movement of celestial bodies

i mean, a year is the time it takes the earth to go around the sun, a month the time it takes the moon to wax and wane, etc etc. so really time is completely relevant and entirely abstract

the reason a black hole shreds time? because if you put a planet next to a black hole the gravity of the black hole will slow (or speed up, depending on the direction of the planet) the orbit of a planet, therefore changing time.

this reminds me of that episode of SG1 where they opened a wormhole to a planet with a black hole... its very cool, but think about it, the locality of cheyenne mountain was travelling at a slower speed than the rest of the planet... and, relative to the rest of the planet this was over the course of a few months... why wasnt cheyenne mountain travelling a few hundreds of thousands of kilometers behind Earth proper? =P

Now, to alligience, if you recall, in SG1, the human researchers who originally studied the gate tried THOUSANDS of combinations, and only stumbled upon 1 that worked.  And that was only because the gates were still within their original parameters.  Without proper equipment, the gate is worthless to Rush as there are likely no more than a handful of gates avilable to him to start with.  And he has no means of scouting to see if where they lead is inhabitable, unless he's got a keno?  I don't know as i haven't seen this one yet.

I fully believe the ship is his only means of return.  Perhaps he will use a piece of the gate to fix it?  Or perhaps someone will come through and help/capture him.  We've seen 3 friendly alien ambasadors (Teal'c, Teyla, Ronan)  But not an unfriendly one.  One who will work with Rush to undermine the colonel.

I'll watch it soon and finish this later.

As far as the Researchers in the Movie that tried thousands of combinations....That was prior to Dr. Jackson cracking it. Rush is Post First Contact. Meaning hes smart enough to know if he observes the stars hell be able to pinpoint a location he wants to go.

^As for the few address watch SGA. There was an obnoxious character introduced that used plant life from another planet to seduce people into doing what he wanted. He discovered that on his journeys through the SG. They never said how many planets he had visited. But considering how many they implied. It was alot.

Also in SG1 the Goauld and all their minions had knowledge of how to activate the SG as well an extensive knowledge of different planets and their addresses. Its not hard for someone with a knowledge of Ancients and their technology, as well SG knowledge is considered basic compared to all the other stuff theyve come across during their travels. Rush is in now way an idiot and figuring out how to punch in a few addresses coinciding with the Stars above him. It be pretty easy for him to simply find his way around. You guys are making something that is now simple (wasnt simple in the begining) into something difficult. Its a SG, just with different symbols. It still operates the same way the Milky Way SGs and Pegasus SGs work.

As well, Rush seems to be the only person with a true insight into whats going on with Destiny. Wouldnt shock me if the Writers put him on a planet the Crew was visiting and wrote it off as, Rush already knew the next destination of the Destiny and just jumped there and waited for them. Same thing would be written in if he used the downed alien spaceship. Its a big Universe out there. Without knowledge of where the Destiny is headed. Hes not going to find them.

The Writers can use either or. Personally I think using the SG over the Ship is more likely. The chances of that ship being operable and serving as more then a shelter is unlikely. He can simply stay there til he can observe enough of the night sky to find out what address he wants to dial to catch up to the crew. Considering he already  knows how the SG operates extensively and is capable of gate hopping to a planet with vegitation and is more hospitable instead of staying on a desolate planet with an Alien ship that he may or may not be able to figure out. Theres no telling what its condition is or if Rush has it in him to figure out something as Alien as a ship from 100s of 1000s of light years from the Milky Way. Atleast with Ancient Tech they left some basic info on the Earth that was mixed in with other cultures for people like Rush to figure out. This is a different story entirely. Hes going to have to weigh his options. Stay with the ship and commit hes time and energy to something he might not figure out, or might not get it operating. Or use what he already knows, SG travel. Yes itll be a risk, but staying on that planet is just as risky. He can stay there and die, or die trying to save himself by gate hopping.

Also your math is wrong. As in all you have to do is look at the stars above you to figure out what the hell to dial. This isnt about dialing random symbols when you dont know what the symbols mean. This is about having extensive knowledge of the SG and what those symbols mean. Considering up to this point Rush has known about shit happening far in advance. Im pretty certian he knows where the Destiny is headed. And probably what Gate Address it will dial once it arrives. 

Also theres plenty of characters threw out SG1 and SGA that figured out how to dial the SG without having to dial it 44 million times. Im pretty sure it take FAR too long to dial that many addresses and get nothing. So I can only speculate that some people are intelligent enough to notice a corilation between the address markers and the constilations above their heads at night.

When you pick up a phone at your neighbors house does it have different numbers then the one at yours? no it doesnt. Why? because if it did it be pretty hard to call each other. Same thing with the SGs. The SGs itself is nothing more then a telephone. They all have the same dialing symbols. Just have to pattern them differently to get where you want to go. Same thing with the Pegasus. And now where the hell the Destiny is.

Considering how the SG on Earth can Dial a SG in Pegasus tells you that the Symbols being used is constilations that can be observed no matter where you are in the Galaxy or nearby Galaxies. The fact that the Crew tried to Dial Earth from the Destiny also tells you that those symbols are the same as the Milky Way SG and the Pegasus SG just drawn differently. Not every phone has the same font for their numbers. Not every gate is going to have the same design for those symbols. Now Rush has been nose deep in the Destiny's archives since hes arrived. Its not hard to imagine (considering the Destiny is a HUB for information flowing back from the SG Factory ships ahead of it) That hes memorized a number of Addresses after reading up on things the Destiny needs and the Humans need to continue their journey.

Like I said your making something already simplified by the Writers to explain gate travel into something unnecessarily difficult. Yes real world thinking will debunk everything in the SG: Franchise. But thankfully were talking about how things work in the SG:Franchise Universe and not the Real World Universe we live in.

what do you mean by 'different numbers'? area code? or just that they are not that different? I don't really know my neighbours phone anyway and grew up as generation mobile phone.

'just different patterns' make up a lot of difference when you have a base of 36 symbols. it's basically like an alphanumberical code for our terminology.

that said, one option could be that the symbols are - as was stated in some episode - actually words or rather syllables of ancient language. rush of course should be knowledgeable in ancient, so ... maybe he tries out a few combos that make some semantical sense.

I was just saying that pure random trial and error will get you absolutely nowhere with stargates. and before you continue with your phone example consider that there are not that many phone numbers than phones. maybe 10x as much, maybe 100, but not millions upon million times as many. chances of dialing a random phone number and reaching someone - as long as it has the right amounts of digits - are relatively high I'd say. stargates ... well, who knows how many are out there anyway.

In regard to my previous post, in no way do I think soldiers are "idoits".  I misread the sarcasm of the post, and I am sorry for that.  It is hard to tell sarcasm on the internet through words, unless it is very obvious.  I have a friend currently on active duty, my father and grandfather were marines.  Sorry I offended you so much Callen. 

Anyway back to SG:U.  If Rush does show up, I hope it is not in this season, that would be too quick.  When he does show up, I do expect a new alien race to emerge into the story. 

Now I'm just waiting for the Stones to get hidden somewhere and never seen again . 

meh, let's just leave it at that and enjoy the show. too much questioning of sci fi material isn't exaclty good for humor anyway and it's nice to just be entertained a little.

I said he wants to shoot people who don't agree with him. If I said you should shut up because you're making an idiot of yourself, that would imply that I want you banned, wouldn't it? The nitpicking cuts both ways....

Okay.  I have watched Stargate Universe long enough.

It's a show that tries to be edgy but just ends up being a needlessly violent and dark show for the sake of breaking the nicey-nice mould.  Whoever came up with this needs to take their happy meds, because this show bums me out like nothing else I've watched.