Oh yes, we can prove the existence of God ....through causality, on this principle if there were no God, there would be no you or me...from universal reasoning....from reason and Natural or Moral Law, from the voice of conscience and lastly from justice as I have just mentioned.
I for one, would like to you proove the assertion, in detail.
I already have proved the existence of God from justice .....as summed up in the highlighted below.
Whether we realize it or not we must admit immortality. Justice demands it.
Even apart from God's revelation, we can know there is life after death by use of our reason as there is not a single argument against the existence of God, Heaven or Hell, which cannot be proved fallacious....including yours. If there is no future life, there is no true morality, for there is no sufficient sanction. Rob, lie, murder, etc. ---only be careful! If there is immortality we can understand God reserving His full manifestation of Supreme Justice for the next life. But if the be no immortality, as you suggest, then there be no God at all. For this doctrine that there is no immortality, the proofs should be strong...but where are they? There are none.
Believe me, the human soul is made in the image and likeness of God and is therefore, immortal. We know that God, Heaven and Hell exist becasue Justice demands there be God, Heaven and Hell. The very sense of justice among us results in law, in courts....this supposes a Just God. We are not self sufficient...we didn't give ourselves a sense of justice. It comes from our Creator who made us...and no one can give what he does not possess himself. Yet justice cannot always be done by men in this world. Here the good often suffer and the wicked prosper. And even though human justice does not always succeed in balancing the scales, they will be balanced some day by a Just God, who most certainly does exist...as does eternal life in Heaven or Hell.
And you confirmed it by saying....
It ought to be done because to cause harm is wrong, and actually it would imply a law system and set of standards that a society/world has adopted. Therein, those adopted standards may or may not come from a religion, and may or may not come from a God. Look at Buddhism, they have a set of standards/morals. Yet, they do not believe in your God.
The existence of God can be proven from causality. But we should first answer, Who is God?
The universe limited in all its details could not be its own cause. It couldn't come together with all its regulating laws anymore than the most famous bridges could just happen or a clock could assemble itself and keep perfect time without a clock-maker.
Right reasoning asserts every effect has a cause. Primary, secondary, and extended effects relate back to First Cause. Fire, mist, time, force, matter, a tree and termites, you and me all are effects of one First Cause. The Cosmos presupposes a cause, a being necessarily outside the thing produced. All creation stands in ultimate contrast to the cause of its production. This uncreated Cause --this Being having no cause, no beginning--Christians name God.
The Eternal Creator is necessarily sovereign Lord and Master over all created beings, man included. Since no thing posesses a quality not found in its cause, the supreme qualities in nature are manifestations of the qualities of the Creator of nature.
Nature evidences the elevation, expansion, and extension of Creation. Order, beauty, and harmony in nature evidences design, intention and intelligence of God.
God is the Supreme self-existent, infinitely perfect Eternal Spirit who designed, created and rules the universe. God is the Creator and Lord of Heaven and earth and Moral Ruler of man. God is the Author of all good. ANd this is why I prompted you to think along those lines after telling us you are a good person....and we believe you, but where do you get this goodness is the deeper question? I answered by saying being "good" supposes a Lawgiver.
To be good, loving, compassionate and honest for yourself or fellow man implies that right ought to be done. Why ought it be done? Ought or must supposes a Lawgiver. All law derives its force from the right of a lawgiver. To do what is right or what one ought to dopushes us straight back to doing right for the sake of the Author of all that is right.
The bottom line is that no one can be or do these virtuous acts for right's sake if he ignores God for without God he cannot prove that what he thinks to be right or good or loving or compassionate or honest, is right or has any binding force at all.
Where is God? And what are His Perfections?
God is in Heaven, on earth, and in all places. He is everywhere present...Omnipresent. God had no beginning and can have no end. He is Eternal, Unchangeable, can do all things whatsoever He pleases, for He is ALmighty. God knows and sees all things, even our thoughts, for He is all-knowing.
While the universe is the work of God's omnipotent power and dependent upon Him for its maintainence, He--God--is eternally distinct from His creation.
Right reason sustains belief in God by logically going from effect to cause, the human mind finally comes to the First Great Cause--God.
The changing phenomena of the material universe is a single great effect which must have emanated from an efficient cause, an un-caused cause. The universe can only be seen, intellectually, by being placed in contrast to that which does not change, its Cause. Thus its multitudous effect stands over against an Ultimate Cause-God. We know rationally that this First Cause is not merely equal but necessarily superior to all the effects which flow from all natural causes taken together.
This Ultimate Cause must have personality, intelligence and free will, since we ourselves, whom God created, have intelligence and free will. While this First Cause is responsible for our existence, it is not the cause of our free-will acts. We are responsible for our obedience to the Natural Law of our being, namely, the law obliging us to acquire the knowledge of our First Cause, and so to obey the holy will of God and to worship Him.
