GemCityJoe: "We'll run our affairs in America to suit ourselves and protect our nnational security whenever and however we see fit. We could care less about your non-American perspective, furthermore, the fact that you are not an American suits us just fine. GCJ"
This is a point of view that I hear a lot. It is disturbing. I doubt that you comprehend why it is disturbing. What do want? You want all other people who do not think like you to be destroyed? Let's hope you don't represent the view of the majority of the American people.
A proud American: "Please don't villianize the United States just because you feel we are a threat to whatever puny country you live in."
If you want your opnion to be respected then you should start with a less nationalistic view. It shows you have no respect to whatever opnions other people may have.
A proud American: "Nobody should be completely comfortable with only one major superpower in the world, but really... who else would you want it to be than us?"
The world is not waiting for any superpower's dictatorship and it does not matter how "nice" they are.
A proud American: "You clearly live in a fantasy world, if you can watch these events unfold, and still cast the U.S. taxpayer as the bad guy. It makes me wish people like you (whatever country you are in) did not live under the protective umbrella HELD UP by the very people you seek to villianize."
What makes you so sure other countries need or want US protection? It's interesting to note that the European countries pay most of their defense budget to NATO and most of that money involved will benefit the weapons industry of the US. Which is all very well and I don't have any objection being in NATO, but don't talk about the poor US tax payer being the only victim.
Sam: "Allow me to fisk your ass."
You clearly didn't read the Lord Of The Rings or you fell asleep during the movie. Sam would never say that!
Machiavelli_incorporated: "The american public has taken on an attitude of ur with us or ur with them attitude, which is, like ive said before, an immature and fundamentally flawed view of the world. let me put this to u in terms u right wingers mite understand. There is another world out there, it doesnt end with ur boarders."
It doesn't end with being hostile to other viewpoints either. It should start there. If the discussions are just being about who is right or who is wrong or why right is bad or why right is wrong then one just tries to win arguments. In my view that is how wars are started.
Whack-a-mole: "If the mature worldview requires we spell your as 'ur' and might as 'mite' I'm willing to explore the depths of my immaturity."
It doesn't really help the conversation to act like a teacher, does it? Or does it just make you feel good?
Ray: "I have one solution, General Jack (Black ) Pershing did the world a huge favor early in the 20th century. We should do it again. IN those days Gen. Pershing was fighting Muslim insergents and found their weakness. You see Muslim's abhore Pork. In those day's you didn't need the O.K. from Washington to shoot a terrorist. In his campain he caught quite a few terrorist's and stood them up and shot 49 out of 50. He made the 50th person watch as the bodies of the terrorist's were shoved into a mas grave and pig blood was spread over the whole mess. Dead pigs were thrown in the pit and then covered. Well that 50th Muslim went back to his peopel and there was not another terrorist uprising for another 60 years. This sounds cruel but these are tough times."
Sam mentioned Godwin's law. In this case it looks we have to deal with Van der Leun's Corollary.
Whack-A-Mole: "Oh yeah! The courageous posts with complete anonymity on JoeUser are truly a decisive blow against "the man."
And who might you be?