That is a very good beef to have, I have to agree 100% with you. But these consequence COULD (I do not say they WOULD, just that it was a possibility) have been averted if Bush actually had been more receptive to Iran's call for diplomacy in 2003.

He didn't, and thus Iran have done the logical strategic choice: support a faction that were ideologically aligned on them, and prevent the US's influence in the region. It ain't a good thing it itself (it's rather a bad thing), but I think most of the countries that went in Iraq (either with or without the Coalition) got dirty in the process.

And then again, I don't think bombing Iran to smittereen like you advocate will actually stop the influx of weapons and guerilla fighters, or help protect the American soldiers in Iraq more. Nor the soldiers fighting in Afghanistan, for that matter.

I really don't see how trying diplomacy will weaken the United States. You still have air superiority and godly nuclear power to launch on them in the case they actually try anything direct.

Close ennough. I actually support our troops in Afghanistan, and so I let my fellow countrymen fight and die on YOUR (U.S.A.) behalf (because I do think removing the Talibans was/is a worthy cause for YOUR interest/protection), which allowed them to get a bucket of insult on Fox Channel in return. You are welcomed America.

You know, up until now, the conversation had been kept somewhat mature. I notice how people like you can't avoid using nasty words and insults when you can't seem to get people to see things your way. I won't deny I call names from time to time, but I usually start right off the back. Either way your comment made no point, last I checked the US has not promised to destroy an entire culture, the Iranian President however.

Excuse? You mean reality. Obama has made mistake after mistake from day one but God forbid anyone point them out. Obama should be given at least 4 years before anyone says anything, right? I'll never understand why anyone would simply dismiss the mistakes a person does just because you like them. If you people don't care about what your dream boy does wrong, then you will have to live with his mistakes. Thank you for being so selfish and not thinking about the rest of us.

Indeed. Bad harsh language. But I'd say the USA are ahead of Iran when it comes to exterminating a people, so they have little lessons to give in that regard. Native Americans and Phillipinos could give testimony in that regard.

I repeat my previous statement: You are ready to bomb a whole country and destabilise the whole region based on political posturing against a long-lasting ennemy. Hell, you are less critical of Israel, who actually have directly bombed civilians.

I am not saying that Iran is blameless or without faults. Just that you seem to be quick to shove away any attempt that won't end in blood.

I said you were hypocrit, because you reacted badly at someone's mention that you were bloodthirsty, but not 2 lines later, you accused of Iran's President of being as bad as Stalin or Hitler, while having no actual fact to support that. You acted the exact same way than the person who called you bloodthirsty: just because someone is on the other side of the argument (be it a debate on a forum or something as important as Israel's legitimacy or right to exist) doesn't make him a monster.

I don't. I just vote for keeping them there and helping their funding, they do the best job they can, and from what I heard, they aren't bad at it. Off course, they also have the highest death per capita of the whole Theater.

Would be great if your country actually seemed to notice. Along with Netherland and U.K., not many country actually accepted to take risks in this mission.

Ah, well, you may call me a defeatist, that's kinda funny. If you want to paint everything black and white, without actually understanding the shades present, I guess it's your loss. Bush Doctrine all the way, eh?

I didn't call you anything, I made a statement...why do feel the term fits you?

[quote]Dude, get a clue. We did not start peace talks with Iran the day Obama sent the video. Of course you would rather try for 50 years just to make sure it's not working. God, why do people dismiss things so easily and act as if they never existed?[/quote

I don't consider political intimdation a form a peace talk, and until Obama's video, intimidation was USA's only message to Iran.

Eh, I haven't said Canada is blameless either. I just said that for someone who claims moral superiority, there are no country spotless. Your people aren't rampaging murderous because of whatever their country has done in their distant or not-so-distant past. Iran shouldn't be considered differently. The German turned out well eventually, but they had to fire the first shot.

I don't say not to prepare in case they are ready to do it the hard way. But I am saying that it shouldn't be a detterant to do it the nice way.