I play frost TB almost always in Demigod. My opinion is to reduce by maybe 15% the damage shatter does. More than that does take away most of the damaging ability of Frostmode and makes him gimp as I don't even know

Trust me, you do not want to take the damage away, just lessen it.

Edit: Sorry that this sounded like I didn't read, but you are asking for a lot of stuff to be done when a scaling of damage could be the fix it needs.

I see what you're saying. But don't compare it to hammer slam... you can't avoid it if you get boulder rolled in melee, which melee heroes would find themselves being in melee with him often :3

I can see how the debuff ending damage thing might help, but that would force Frost TB to stick around and wait for 7 seconds while perhaps getting beat down by assisting demigods. I guess I mean to say, Frost TB won't be alone with a hero long enough in a decent game to not be at risk of being annihilated for hanging out after attacking.

Also, I like how you want to bring more timing into it, that was a good idea. But if that would be so, I'd like debuff timers on the demigod i'm attacking, or some form of keeping time, because otherwise it would get annoying having to count out in my head every time I attack someone. I'm lazy, I guess.

Maybe introducing an item (scroll) that removes every effect from you (even friendly ones) and is castable while stunned? (would also remove stun) It'd need to cost a lot for a 1 use item like 750 gold, but it'd be a great strategic item. If you use it too much you won't have enough money to buy other items, but if you use it effectively you'll have the upper hand.

Edit: Or maybe an item that only removes stun effects, and makes you immune to them for like 5 seconds, that way, using the invulnerability trinket and this new item, you'd counter the deepfreeze easily.

I don't think they should rework the best mechanic they came up with, and why does it take more skill to pull off boulder+slam? It's quite simple against melee heroes, 4 clicks actually.

Anyway, a stun removing 1 use item would solve everything, but it might make stuns useless, then again TB is a glasscannon, he needs to do loads of damage in an instant, just look at a fire TB with the cooldown reducing favor item, with that one he does around 2700 damage in 4-5 seconds plus a fire nova and you'll easily do 4000 in 6 seconds. Throw in a potion against that or against the deepfreeze and TB is down. At around level 15 you should have more than 4000 health if you're going against a TB, if you survive the deepfreeze, you're good to go.

Although your ideas are great - the change is simply too big, and they cannot make changes so big before release.

Instead of making it so complex, it just needs a simple nerf so a ice TB cannot do 2.9k damage instantly. Ontop of the insta 2.9k damage you will also suffer from pretty extreme movement AND attack slowdown. Oh, and I did mention after you get stunned you will also have all your skills cooldowns increased by 10 seconds? So basically, you cant do anything now. If you try to use an item you get stunned, if you try to use another item you get stunned again AND have an increase cooldown of 10 seconds.

1. Decrease range of AoE stun. This at least gives people more of a chance to escape the stun and actually means doing this combo takes more skill.

2. Decrease shatter damage. 2.9k is simply too much damage.

3. Decrease cooldown increase from Deep Freeze. 10 Seconds of no skills after getting stunned and then interupted is too much. How am I meant to use any items if I get stunned, interupted, disabled for 10 seconds. Decrease to something like 3-6 seconds...test around with different figures.

You can either implement all of these or only one or two of them, or even anything else - but point is, it needs a nerf.

We'll see but the bigger the change the less likely they are to put it in - thats jus the way it works. Tbh I really like your idea, just realistically i dont think they will putting it in....

They wont even put in a small teleport animation (hopefully they will) to the location someone is teleporting to - i doubt they would change/modify the skills so much.

Hopefully its something they can implement later

Its been officially announced that there will be purely number adjustments for day0 patch, so nothing else. Numbers can change A LOT in a game. Can make some builds completely viable/not viable or balanced and not balanced.

but the big thing is to hit with hammer slam it takes actual skill, and its very easy to dodge it of for the Rook to miss, while shatter is a matter of clicking.

I kinda like the idea of reworking skills though, however it'll make more impact if they let ppl see how overpowered the skills are first, then rework it later and i still kinda like how they design the skills, at least to give some credit to the designer let ppl know it exist first. For a temp fix maybe changing deep freeze to a melee skill would help. It'd fit the image of touching someone and Deep freeze him imo.