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Destroying an account

February 14, 2009 1:10:35 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

Awhile back we put in a feature that only rarely gets used and never on JU before. It’s called Destroy Account.  What happens is the system goes and wipes out every post, every comment that user has ever made on all our sites.

I got to use it today on LW. I had exiled her for comparing a tax cut to corporate welfare and then as being the same as the welfare that the Octuplet mom receives for her 14 children.

I’ve said this in the past but occasionally needs to be repeated – there is no “free speech” here.  I invite others to create blogs and post on whatever they want with only a few exceptions – personally attacking each other and me in particular.

I would like to think we’re a lot more tolerant than say the DailyKos or the Huffington Post who wouldn’t put up for a second having bloggers who attack their benefactor or even having a different ideology than their benefactor.

I don’t really pay that much attention to JU these days. I don’t care if someone is liberal or conservative and I’ll happily engage in a debate.  Where I draw the line is when people come after me or my company personally.  At that point, I have pretty much no tolerance.

Anyway, I wasn’t planning on destroying LW’s account utterly but she couldn’t restrain herself from making one last goodbye post where she complained that I would keep her posts so that I could make a few cents off her writings.  To to oblige her on her fear that her writings wouldn’t profit me, I used the destroy account feature to remove all evidence of her writings and comments from the site.

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Reply #1 February 14, 2009 1:29:55 PM
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Some people are just self destructive.  I think she is definitely one.

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Reply #2 February 14, 2009 2:36:12 PM
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I wish I had seen the fireworks before they got deleted.

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Reply #3 February 14, 2009 3:04:07 PM
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I just got an e-mail from Little Whip. She asked me to post this.

I'd like my photo removed from the 'top users' list.  I tried to change it to just a small generic avatar via WC this morning, prior to the account itself being nuked, but didn't have anything small enough to upload, nor any software to scale another image down to size. I'd like my image removed from the JU Home page and/or any related Stardock owned sites.

 Me again:I wish it didn't come down to this.

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Reply #4 February 14, 2009 3:09:10 PM
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Me again:I wish it didn't come down to this.

Me too. (she told me to pass along the same thing. And she also said to not sweat it because "this is probably for the best.")

I am sure going to miss her.

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Reply #5 February 14, 2009 7:35:43 PM
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 Wow, I've been on and off this week and didn't notice anything!

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Reply #6 February 14, 2009 7:48:59 PM
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Could you "Destroy account" on Asaxygirl please?  She requested this in an email last time there was a free speech issue here, and no one so much as wrote back to her.

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Reply #7 February 14, 2009 7:49:37 PM
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If it helps, I can have her come in and lob a bunch of insults until your dander is high enough to push the button

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Reply #8 February 14, 2009 8:41:45 PM
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Free Speech? Whats that? I think it existed a few hundred years ago.....

 

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Reply #9 February 14, 2009 10:00:12 PM
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Quoting OckhamsRazor,
comment 6


Could you "Destroy account" on Asaxygirl please?  She requested this in an email last time there was a free speech issue here, and no one so much as wrote back to her.

People can destroy their own accounts from the dashboard.

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Reply #10 February 14, 2009 11:26:03 PM
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People can destroy their own accounts from the dashboard.

 

Not that we can find.  Care to be more specific?

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Reply #11 February 15, 2009 9:02:30 AM
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Reply #12 February 15, 2009 9:16:38 AM
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www.joeuser.com -> My Dashboard -> Articles

This brings up a list of articles that you've authored. From here you view, check referrals, edit or delete any and all of the articles/threads that you've authored. You do have to do them one at a time but at least you can do this from a single place. It's not quite the same as delete account since as far as I can tell there's no way to delete your replies to other people's articles.

Also there can be some overlap between "articles" specifically written as such versus "threads" created on one of Stardock's other "forum" sites. This occurs for those that regularly visit (and post) from more than one site. It can seem somewhat random as to what gets listed in the "Your Articles" list. Also when you delete things in this manner it does seem to take a little time for all the info to propagate throughout the system.

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There is an alternate path to almost the same thing via SD's "other" blog site Impulsedriven. In this case the path is (note the .net):

http://www.impulsedriven.net/ -> My Dashboard -> Articles

Which takes you to a similar "Your Articles" list except that the articles listed will only include articles in forums that are accessible from Impulsedriven as opposed forums accessible to JU. If this were the sole differences then that would make sense but there does seem to be the occasional discrepancy that doesn't fit any pattern.

When I was growing up the closets in my grandmothers house did not have a back wall to them and so you could crawl from the closet in one room to the closet in an adjacent room. To a five year old this seemed like secret passageways throughout the house. SD's forum sites are somewhat like that.

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Reply #13 February 15, 2009 9:23:29 AM
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This brings up a list of articles that you've authored. From here you view, check referrals, edit or delete any and all of the articles/threads that you've authored. You do have to do them one at a time but at least you can do this from a single place. It's not quite the same as delete account since as far as I can tell there's no way to delete your replies to other people's articles.

Also there can be some overlap between "articles" specifically written as such versus "threads" created on one of Stardock's other "forum" sites. This occurs for those that regularly visit (and post) from more than one site. It can seem somewhat random as to what gets listed in the "Your Articles" list. Also when you delete things in this manner it does seem to take a little time for all the info to progate through the system.

 Eh...

 

If it helps, I can have her come in and lob a bunch of insults until your dander is high enough to push the button

That'd be a lot easier Ock -not to mention way more fun!

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Reply #14 February 15, 2009 9:50:51 AM
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Eh...
If this mystifies you then consider that the last time I counted there were 755 different forums spread over 11 different forum sites of which 373 forums were unique. I say were because it was about 5 months ago when I made that exhaustive search. Since then SD has added the Elemental site and undoubtedly new forums associated with it as well as increased the exposure of forums across sites.

I find this fascinating although admittedly it is very confusing.

One thing is that all the sites, both blog and forum, share the same database of articles/threads and so even though a particular forum may not be accessible on a particular site *all* threads can be viewed from *any* site using the article/thread number.

For instance this article in the “Blogging” forum (https://forums.joeuser.com/forum/16) is accessed at https://forums.joeuser.com/339791. But if you happened to know the article number, 339791, then you can also access this from any other of SD’s sites even though the Blogging forum is not otherwise accessible by using the following syntax, https://forums.galciv2.com/339791.

There’s even more to this since many forums on many sites are “invisible” in that they don’t appear in any top level category list but post activity to these forums still scroll by on the site's recent post list. There are actually 3 forms of invisible forums dependent on the method used to discover that they actually exist.

As I said fascinating.

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Reply #15 February 15, 2009 12:19:08 PM
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I will certainly make sure they make it as easy as possible for people to remove their own blogs. 

In the meantime, I will happily do it for them if they just comment here.

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Reply #16 February 16, 2009 9:26:24 PM
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Where you rocking out to Devos "Whip it" when you used this "Destroy account" feature?

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Reply #17 February 17, 2009 4:45:10 PM
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Well, I guess this answers my question to the article I wrote. Talk about being out of the loop. The strange thing is I saw this coming sooner or later and at the same time never thought it would happen. Sure, LW had the ability to get under some peoples skins and right in their faces, fear was not a word she related to much. But I also figured ignoring her would also work in most cases.

In a way I think it's a shame (I enjoyd her intersting way of commenting) but I am one who believes "you do the crime, you do the time" and if Brad felt it necessary to nuke LW's entire existance from JU, I have no complaints about it. She will be missed but life goes on.

Free Speech? Whats that? I think it existed a few hundred years ago.....

Depends on your idea of what free speech was at all. Chances are it never really existed except maybe a concept of it. After all, nothing is free in life.

Some people are just self destructive. I think she is definitely one.

I'd say she was more honest in her feelings and she paid the price for it. As Brad said, he never said this site had free speech and throwing your opinions at him in the form of attacks will give him a decent enough excuse to show anyone this is his site and he's the supreme commander here. Just like we all have the ability to block people from our own blogs. This is blacklist to the extreme. One thing can be said about her, she sticks to her guns regardless of consequences. Very few can claim that around here.

I on the other hand like JU and choose to stay on Brads good side as best as I can  even though I tend to agree with his opinions quite often and I am not as directly honest as LW was.

 

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Reply #18 February 18, 2009 7:45:18 PM
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There is not a "nuke account" button from what I can find. Since my e-mail request was ignored many months back, maybe you will lift your finger up and delete, cancel, close my account. I'm not a yes woman and to be associated with a person who will only surround himself with yes people is not my cup of tea. I prefer to be challenged, think, learn, and grow.

There are some wonderful people on JU and I have missed them. I wish you all well.

...and yet another fun, cool blogger bites the dust. I for one will miss you AsaxyGirl!

Fare thee well.

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Reply #19 February 18, 2009 7:52:25 PM
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I for one will miss you AsaxyGirl!

...and I for two.

~Zoo

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Reply #20 March 4, 2009 8:48:49 AM
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Congrats Brad didn't think you had it in you. I guess its safe for me to post in here again. But I won't cause I've moved on, and wouldn't be fair to comment about the littlest of whips. Ohhh burn. Hope development of the new game Demigods is going well. If gameplay is as good and deep as some of the screenshots I've seen it should be an instant buy for me.

For those of you who take issue with Brad, you need to remember that though you may live in the USA this forum is Brads sandbox, and if you don't play nice, and no question some don't, he is free to throw some sand in your face, or kick you out. Like he said he doesn't even pay attention to JU and why should he, cause the crowd that hangs out here, is mainly a bunch of losers with not enough to do and too much to complain about.

If you don't like the decision, you didn't read the terms of use, where it says you have no right to appeal and the forum is run like a monarchy and you aren't King or Queen.

Brad taught me what a "strawman" is. Though I don't recall trying to make him out to be one.

Have a wonderfully nice day Brad and all.

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Reply #21 March 4, 2009 10:10:59 AM
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DRAGINOL WRITES:

I’ve said this in the past but occasionally needs to be repeated – there is no “free speech” here. I invite others to create blogs and post on whatever they want with only a few exceptions – personally attacking each other and me in particular.


....... Where I draw the line is when people come after me or my company personally. At that point, I have pretty much no tolerance.

No matter the subject of the discussion, while arguing over differences and strongly defending one's positions, there is just no place for personal attacks. This is reasonable and common sense as personal attacks show we don't respect and honor ourselves or the other person.

 

 

 

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Reply #22 March 4, 2009 10:12:22 AM
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DRAGINOL WRITES:

I’ve said this in the past but occasionally needs to be repeated – there is no “free speech” here. I invite others to create blogs and post on whatever they want with only a few exceptions – personally attacking each other and me in particular.


....... Where I draw the line is when people come after me or my company personally. At that point, I have pretty much no tolerance.

No matter the subject of the discussion, while arguing over differences and strongly defending one's positions, there is just no place for personal attacks. This is reasonable and common sense as personal attacks show we don't respect and honor ourselves or the other person.

 

 

 

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Reply #23 March 4, 2009 10:15:09 AM
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Congrats Brad didn't think you had it in you. I guess its safe for me to post in here again. But I won't cause I've moved on, and wouldn't be fair to comment about the littlest of whips.

You won't but you did. Moved one? Funny. Hmmm. Nice to see you around again, I think.

For those of you who take issue with Brad, you need to remember that though you may live in the USA this forum is Brads sandbox, and if you don't play nice, and no question some don't, he is free to throw some sand in your face, or kick you out. Like he said he doesn't even pay attention to JU and why should he, cause the crowd that hangs out here, is mainly a bunch of losers with not enough to do and too much to complain about.

I'm sure most people know this but some people like to stick to their guns. This is Brads "sand box" and getting into his sand box means going by his rules. That doesn't mean people will bow down. If people avoided honesty about their opinions just to avoid getting the boot than that would make them cowards for not standing up for their beliefs. Of course there is no need to insult Brad, unless that was what he wanted.

BTW, to go around calling other people losers on a forum you claim to have moved on from but are still lurking around and posting after claiming not to be posting anymore (talk about contradictions) is to distract from the reality that the only real loser here is you since you could not even handle an anonymous blogger who did nothing more than give you a cyber-hard time.

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Reply #24 March 4, 2009 10:18:06 AM
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As I said fascinating.

Mumblefratz,

 

Speaking of disappearing blogs, what happened to yours entitled, I just don't know"?

 

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Reply #25 March 4, 2009 10:41:12 AM
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Quoting lulapilgrim,
reply 24

Mumblefratz,

Speaking of disappearing blogs, what happened to yours entitled, I just don't know"?

 

Great! Are we getting there again where people delete their blog entries after others have spent hours writing comments?

 

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