Also, Karma, I'd like to point out that you used the wrong "capitol" in your comment, the one you used means like a state capitol >8P

Actually, my spell and grammar changed a lot of stuff that I wrote wrong (or right, depending on how you look at it).  Like it had "asstrick" in there.  People take things too seriously...or maybe they take themselves too seriously, I'm not sure....  If anyone take me seriously, then they need to reread what I really write.  (like things like: "personal boob choice").  I guess maybe I have been online too much......

Karma - it seems that you are the only one that has had a problem with "interpretation". There is nothing in this post that exceeds two sentences, point by point, one logically following the other. This i have noticed time and again in Mig's writing. Always, unless taking artistic license in fiction, short and succinct paragraphs that contain single, whole ideas. Sound writing. Capital letters might be your best friend but most of us have proceeded beyond remedial grammar. Same goes for the numbers, letters or asterisks for lists. It is always the singularity of the idea in a sentence that determines a list, not particularly the identifiers.Your argument about screening was acceptable in that it addressed points within the argument which you thought you read. Your emphasis, however, did not correspond to the emphasis of Mig's article. This is nothing but purile nit picking about issues that simply do. not. exist. Marco

btw, thanks marco. those uni degrees of yours really come in handy sometimes, huh ? *smooch*

vanessa XXXXX

peace, sister, and sorry. please come disagree with me again sometime

hehe....you called Joseph (hope I remembered your name right) a sister.  Don't you have a blog about that?

I for one am not much of a boob man myself in terms of pure attraction, preferring more intimate parts of the anatomy, but I can certainly appreciate a nice pair of breasts. To me, however, nice usually means no bigger than a C cup. Anything above that is way too big for my tastes, and A or B is just perfect in terms of balance and aesthetics.

I agree. Just enough to execute a proper pearl necklace is all that's really needed.

Fake Bad. natural GOOD!!!

alas... look at the articles/threads that i've been missing out on...

I'm 3 weeks late chiming in on this one. and i lack the time to address it completely.

I have a friend that used to say "make-up is the first lie that a woman tells you" how true.

I don't see the difference between wearing makeup and having breast enhancement surgery. or wearing colored contacts. or any number of the other things that both men and women do to 'enhance' their appearance. we're all trying to put our best foot forward in this world, right? I'm not trying to say that one position is right, and the other one is wrong. This is one of those situations where right and wrong is dependent on the individual making the choice.

Karma Girl made a pretty good point when she said:

"pretty people have more opportunities than ugly people. It's just the way it is. Can an ugly musician ever make it big in todays world?"

Karma... two words "Mick Jagger"

Mig, I know you and i tend to agree usually, but on this occasion i'll have to disagree... this one is up to the woman. I've never seen you before, but based on your writing, your thoughts, your 'aura' if you will, i get the feeling that you are above average in the looks dept. I might be stepping out onto a limb here, but i'll also bet that you have no idea what it's like to be really ugly... have you ever been looked down upon by the masses (not just a few... the masses) for being lesser, lower, poorer, uglier, or dumber? I think not. Perhaps you know what it's like to be a geek, and perhaps that has made you the resilient woman that you are today, but then, not everyone has developed the coping skills that you have.

I know what it's like to be the outcast, the loser, the geek, the ugly kid, the kid that everyone accuses of being gay, the dork, the nerd, etc etc ad infinitum... and while i would never get fake boobs to make myself feel better, it has taken a long time to get over that.

so basically what i'm saying is, until you've been down that road, until you've explored the different pathways and trains of thought that lead women to get boob jobs (OTHER than the ones you listed, cause trust me, there are more)... i don't think you should assume that you know what it's all about.

you posed the question for the 'boob loving males of the world', while only women can explain why they make that choice.

i'm gonna shut up now, cause i'm startin' (o.k., started a long time ago) to sound like an ass hole. sorry about that...

but you're still my bud... so don't hate me.

alas... look at the articles/threads that i've been missing out on

you're here now

I'm 3 weeks late chiming in on this one. and i lack the time to address it completely.

better late than never, hononymous !

we're all trying to put our best foot forward in this world, right? I'm not trying to say that one position is right, and the other one is wrong. This is one of those situations where right and wrong is dependent on the individual making the choice.

true, but i still do feel a difference between making the most of what one has and being brainwashed into unnecessary surgery.

Mig, I know you and i tend to agree usually, but on this occasion i'll have to disagree

that's ok, hononymous. it's allowed !

I might be stepping out onto a limb here, but i'll also bet that you have no idea what it's like to be really ugly... have you ever been looked down upon by the masses (not just a few... the masses) for being lesser, lower, poorer, uglier, or dumber? I think not

well, i'd have to say that large fake breasts can't help if one is, as you say, 'really ugly', but i actually had a very hard time with 'the masses' throughout most of my school years. i am very, very pale, and this is unusual for australia. i also lived in a 'surfy' area and often got teased at school. i never really fitted in and remember my school years as a misery. as for being lesser, lower, dumber, poorer ... yes, i've been all of those things at some time or another and much worse.

Perhaps you know what it's like to be a geek, and perhaps that has made you the resilient woman that you are today, but then, not everyone has developed the coping skills that you have

well, i don't think surgical alteration is a way to develop 'coping skills'. and i don't really see that having small breasts is anything to 'cope' with anyway. having said that, i don't view myself as a resilient woman. quite the oppposite, actually. i feel anger and pain over these and other issues with alarming regularity !.

I know what it's like to be the outcast, the loser, the geek, the ugly kid, the kid that everyone accuses of being gay, the dork, the nerd, etc etc ad infinitum... and while i would never get fake boobs to make myself feel better, it has taken a long time to get over that.

i'm glad to know that you wouldn't consider surgery. i really don't think it changes much in terms of self-love.

so basically what i'm saying is, until you've been down that road, until you've explored the different pathways and trains of thought that lead women to get boob jobs (OTHER than the ones you listed, cause trust me, there are more)... i don't think you should assume that you know what it's all about.

we will have to agree to disagree here, honoymous. as a woman, i feel that self-love is an internal issue. or it should be, anyway.

you posed the question for the 'boob loving males of the world', while only women can explain why they make that choice

i don't think any woman would get bigger breasts if men didn't like them. sorry !.

i'm gonna shut up now, cause i'm startin' (o.k., started a long time ago) to sound like an ass hole. sorry about that...

nah, it's fine . you didn't sound like as asshole. i really don't mind debate.

but you're still my bud... so don't hate me

oh, i wouldn't hate you for speaking your mind in a polite way as you have done . that's always welcome .

Men don't care what size your boobs are as long as you've got them!!!

hehe crusaders, boobs are boobs !


vanessa/mig XX

For me it's simple... I want to subconsciously reconnect to the first true experience of love, being breast fed - and as for the size, well, when you're a kid even a small breast would appear large, hence the connection to large breasts. It's not as sexual as it is sensual. As for the fake element, you act as if natural breasts were somehow morally superior. I ask this to the women, "if you are attracted to a man, even partly because of his wealth, do you really care if he earned it or inherited it?" Just my thoughts....