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JesseJ
bakerstreet
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Reply #1 August 6, 2004 7:25:02 PM
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Not only do you make a blog to target a member, but apparently you just made the account to do it. Delete this crap.
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JesseJ
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Reply #2 August 6, 2004 7:36:55 PM
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Mind your own business BakerStreet.

dharmagrl has not right to slander me. If I cannot go to another site and make negative slanderous statements about WC admins for example, then nobody should be able to do the same thing to me. I will not tolerate being slandered then being stopped from responding to it.
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Reply #3 August 6, 2004 7:46:17 PM
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I think you'd probably have a better time using a private form of communication. Right now, you simply look like a drama queen.
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JesseJ
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Reply #4 August 6, 2004 7:46:23 PM
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I'll stoop to your level and respond.


Show me on that thread where I slandered you.  I mention your name once. One time.  I'll give you the quote, shall I?


I think he's well at home over at petey's place.  He and Tech Cat are both top boys over there, from the looks of things.  Perhaps he's finally getting the recognition he feels he deserves.


The quote was referring to Anthony, not you, but there is nothing in there that can be considered slanderous.  But, if you think you have a case, complain to the admins. 

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JesseJ
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Reply #5 August 6, 2004 7:53:00 PM
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wah, wah, slander, slander, wah, wah...

gah, who cares what people say. Coming back and making an ass out of yourself just proves her point...
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Reply #6 August 6, 2004 8:01:04 PM
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"I'm not worried what petey and anthony and tech cat think about me" should be edited to "I'm not worried what certain individuals think of me" that way it doesn't defame anyone's character.
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JesseJ
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Reply #7 August 6, 2004 8:03:43 PM
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Mind your own business BakerStreet.

Using another member's name in the title of an article is against the Terms of Service.

dharmagrl has not right to slander me. If I cannot go to another site and make negative slanderous statements about WC admins for example, then nobody should be able to do the same thing to me. I will not tolerate being slandered then being stopped from responding to it.

Where is the slander? Calling you a fuckstick? That's not slander, it's just a fact.

And where is this great response you are wanting to make? Is it simply asking what kind of insult being called a fuckstick is?

If that is such a pathetic insult, then why are you crying about being slandered?

Here, I'll add another for you to cry about: Assclown.
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JesseJ
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Reply #8 August 6, 2004 8:07:24 PM
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I wasn't talking about the "fuckstick" comment when I was talking about dharmagrl slandering me. Now that you mention it, it is a personal attack to call some that as well as slander and defemation of character. Here you are CS Guy saying I am and "fuckstick" which is only your opinion and is slanderous to say. Also, my former screen name belongs to me and nobody should mention it in any post.
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greywar
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Reply #9 August 6, 2004 8:10:58 PM
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Let me further define your character JesseJ : "whingeing puppynut bitch" feel free to bring suit, cocknocker.
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Reply #10 August 6, 2004 8:13:26 PM
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Now that you mention it, it is a personal attack to call some that as well as slander and defemation of character.

    slan·der
    n.
    Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
    A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

So, obviously calling you a fuckstick is not slander since it is neither false nor is injurious to your reputation (since everyone already knows that about you).

Here you are CS Guy saying I am and "fuckstick" which is only your opinion and is slanderous to say.

Again, no it is not slanderous.

Also, my former screen name belongs to me and nobody should mention it in any post.

It does not belong to you. You have no intellectual property right over the name. And why should it not be used in a post?

You really are not a very bright person are you?
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JesseJ
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Reply #11 August 6, 2004 8:13:37 PM
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greywar, CS Guy, ect,

You do not know me. You have no authority tojudge me and making judgemental statements is slanderous and defamation of character.
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JesseJ
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Reply #12 August 6, 2004 8:14:44 PM
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Jesse, honey....you should really look at the legal definition of 'slander' and 'defamation of character' before you start throwing those terms around so loosely. 


If you want to complain, please contact bwardell@stardock.com .  I'm sure he'll be happy to help you.

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Reply #13 August 6, 2004 8:17:25 PM
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So, obviously calling you a fuckstick is not slander since it is neither false nor is injurious to your reputation (since everyone already knows that about you).


Again you do not know me and you only know what others may have said about me which is judgemental and slanderous.

It does not belong to you. You have no intellectual property right over the name. And why should it not be used in a post?


I created that screen name, therefor it is mine. If Prince can hold intellectual property rights over that symbol he once used as his name, then certainly I can old property rights over "Tech Cat."
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Reply #14 August 6, 2004 8:21:53 PM
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That would be an interesting case. Would the burden be on dharmagrl to prove that JesseJ is a fuckstick or would it be on JesseJ to prove that he/she is not?
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JesseJ
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Reply #15 August 6, 2004 8:25:12 PM
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Again you do not know me and you only know what others may have said about me which is judgemental and slanderous.


Please, don't keep tossing the 'slander' card on the table. Judgemental it might be, but slanderous it's not.  If I were to have a banner headline saying 'Greywar is a closet homo' at the top of a web page I had built, and if I told everyone that greywar was gay - not 'i heard he was' gay, but 'he is gay' - then greywar would have cause to first send me a 'cease and desist' letter and then, if I didn't obey the C&D, then he would have cause to file suit.  I know what I'm talking about, I had to look into filing a slander and defamation of character suit a couple of months ago.


Get a grip, Jesse.

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Reply #16 August 6, 2004 8:31:28 PM
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I created that screen name, therefor it is mine


lol read a EULA ass... you created it on Brad's website therefor it is his. Frankly I have seen better reasoning from a piece of rotted salmon.

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Reply #17 August 6, 2004 8:31:30 PM
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A symbol is an expression of art, very easy to copyright. A name is NOT. You can refer to a name anytime you like, in any manner you like as long as it is not ACTUAL SLANDER... George W. Bush can NOT sue Reuters for publishing his name in an article just because he may not like the article. My name was in my local paper the other day because someone else was recounting a funny story that involved me. They did not need to seek permission to use my name. The use of names and likenesses so long as it is not for profit or to slander/defame is considered FAIR USE. Online aliases fall under the same heading as they're simply another facet of your person. Dharma isn't trying to capitalize on your identity to sell something, she doesn't gain in any way, and stating her opinion of you is NOT slander.

I strongly suggest you acquaint yourself with both the proper definition of slander and then maybe brush up on some intellectual property law.
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David St Hubbins
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Reply #18 August 6, 2004 8:36:03 PM
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"Welcome to el blacklisto, fuckstick. "
"And when you're done doing that....fucking bite me."


If I tried talking to DrhamaGrl this way I'd get my ass banned in a second. Bottom line: "Elite" Users are the worst offenders when it comes to blogging etiquette. Bakerstreet, in a fair fight (one where I don't get banned for posting two anti bush posts on the same day) I'd have you on your back screaming for your momma inside of 20 seconds. Ten seconds for you, CSGuy. I make no protestation of unfairness; I'm just stating a fact that I would banned pronto for saying the things you guys say on a daily basis. It's pretty challenging task to take on The Swarm; doubly so when my rules of engagement are more restrictive than yours.

Want to know why four people attack me in a thread on blogging etiquette? Because they see BakerStreet, Greywar, and now DhramaGrl taking indefensible shots at solo bloggers like me, think it's OK, even encouraged by admin.

There's no way JJ or Techcat or whatever his name is said anything near bad enough to warrent "Welcome to El Blacklisto, fuckstick". Funny, Greywar said those words to me once after he made the mistake of picking a fight with me.

Maybe she sees Greywar acting like that and thinks it's OK, even encouraged?


Reply #43 By: BakerStreet - 8/6/2004 6:59:52 PM
"Welcome to el blacklisto, fuckstick. "
AH HAHAHA.......
that was good. Gotta give that one an insightful.


Nah.

Drhama, Bake and anyone else in The Swarm* who thinks they can talk to independant bloggers like this: you're busted. I'm cutting and pasting this stuff in a text file and building up a nice pile of ammunition for the next time one of you bozos has the nerve to call me virtriolic. Give it up and cut us Non-Swarm Bloggers a break, fercrissakes. You may have the conch today in the Lord of The Flies playground that is JoeU, but I'm confident that won't always be the case.
*

A Swarm hive is almost impossible to detect. When a hapless victim stumbles on a forum that houses a Swarm and disturbs it with a message that runs counter to its prevailing ideology, the Swarm will erupt without warning. Taken one at a time the irrelevant, often mindless attacks by individuals in a Swarm can be crushed or easily brushed aside, but because of the sheer volume of the assault even the strongest Warriors must yield. WARNING: Only those who are highly skilled in Swarm management techniques should attempt to wade into a Swarm hive. Protective clothing will not prevent a Warrior from getting a few stings.



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Reply #19 August 6, 2004 8:37:28 PM
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Jesse, if you have a problem with someone take it to private email.

BTW, as for Tech Cat, Sir Peter Maxwell and the others, I'm about ready to eliminate them from the site entirely. This "new money" peasant doesn't have to put up with "slander" (libel) either.

Nothing lamer than one clique bitching about another clique. I really don't like cliques to begin with but they're a fact of life. I just try to stay away from them if I can. 

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Reply #20 August 6, 2004 8:41:44 PM
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David - You are correct (mark it down) I was out of line and I apologize. I will leave my comment intact to show how and why I was wrong. To stoop to JesseJ's level (and yours) was inexscusable and I urge everyone who reads this to give that comment a trolling rating as that was what it was. Sorry.
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Reply #21 August 6, 2004 8:45:02 PM
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David: Do you know why TechCat got banned in the first place? He went onto WinCustomize's forums and attempted to destroy them with 70 or so  "Jafo is a NAZI" posts in a row. That's the kind of guy he is.

You know what really galls me? I was privately taking a beating on there by the moderators and admins defending TechCat before he did that. I had removed ops from certain people on IRC who were baiting TechCat.  And what do I get? I get on his enemy's list and now called "Owner X" of "Site X". What had I ever done to him? Nothing. I was one of his biggest defenders privately. He only lasted as long as he did because I was speaking up for him.  But when he wrecked the message forums with his 70+ posts, what choice did I have?

And the whole point whoring gets on my nerves too because they think it's easily manipulated. It's only easily manipulated if you're relying on the piddly amounts of points you get from comments and insightfuls. The real points are when you get out there and get lots of READERS of your blogs. That's why there's a huge gulf between my blog and others.  I don't even need anyone to comment on my blogs because lots of people come and read what I write.  That could be the same with others.

I do wish the people around here would quit obsessing over one another. It's just bizarre. Black list the people who get on your nerves and move on.

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Reply #22 August 6, 2004 8:52:15 PM
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I do wish the people around here would quit obsessing over one another. It's just bizarre. Black list the people who get on your nerves and move on.


Jesus, someone sees the light. It's just like high school all over again.

-- B
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Reply #23 August 6, 2004 8:54:23 PM
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Greywar, I salute your honour, and I mean that sincerely.
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Reply #24 August 6, 2004 8:58:37 PM
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.. David is funny. Not like a clown, mind you, just... well, funny... =/ ...

Lol, on my back. Well, if you like it on top... whatever floats your boat...

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Reply #25 August 6, 2004 9:01:53 PM
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Bakerstreet, in a fair fight (one where I don't get banned for posting two anti bush posts on the same day) I'd have you on your back screaming for your momma inside of 20 seconds. Ten seconds for you, CSGuy. I make no protestation of unfairness; I'm just stating a fact that I would banned pronto for saying the things you guys say on a daily basis. It's pretty challenging task to take on The Swarm; doubly so when my rules of engagement are more restrictive than yours.


What a bunch of bull.  I haven't seen Bakerstreet say anything ban-worthy and is an excellent debater.  Give an example of something Baker or CSGuy said "on a daily basis" that you'd get banned for.  I have been on this site for a long time and know darn well you didn't get banned for posting anti Bush posts.  I don't proclaim to know the circumstances of your banning but do know that there is plenty of anti Bush stuff on the site.  I think you are giving yourself far too much credit here.

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