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Heinz Kerry Tells Reporter to "Shove It"

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July 26, 2004 10:55:38 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
Teresa Heinz Kerry shows us what she means by restoring American politics to the high ground. Apparently it means taking no responsibility for one’s statements and offering contempt for people that ask for clarification on those statements.

    BOSTON July 25, 2004 — Teresa Heinz Kerry urged her home-state delegates to the Democratic National Convention to restore a more civil tone to American politics, then minutes later told a newspaperman to "shove it."

    "We need to turn back some of the creeping, un-Pennsylvanian and sometimes un-American traits that are coming into some of our politics," the wife of Sen. John Kerry told her fellow Pennsylvanians on Sunday night at a Massachusetts Statehouse reception.

    Minutes later, Colin McNickle, the editorial page editor of the conservative Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, questioned her on what she meant by the term "un-American," according to a tape of the encounter recorded by Pittsburgh television station WTAE.

    Heinz Kerry said, "I didn't say that" several times to McNickle. She then turned to confer with Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell and others. When she faced McNickle again a short time later, he continued to question her, and she replied, "You said something I didn't say. Now shove it."
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Reply #1 July 26, 2004 11:19:50 AM
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Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.
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Reply #2 July 26, 2004 11:24:08 AM
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"Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back."


Hope you were that supportive when Cheney told someone to "F*ck yourself". It'll be fun to watch all the liberals waffle now and tell people to stop being so prudish.
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Reply #3 July 26, 2004 11:33:50 AM
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Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.

right, because asking someone what they actually meant by a word like "un-American" is just acting the bully goon. Asking someone to clarify their statements is an outrageous thing for a reporter to do.
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Reply #4 July 26, 2004 12:14:33 PM
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Oh, that reporter was a "major league asshole" and you know it! Big Time.
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Reply #5 July 26, 2004 12:30:03 PM
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VP Cheney, on the Senate floor as President of the Senate, told another senator (Leahy) to "Go Fuck Yourself." As someone who has told people that same thing before (usually while in a bar or in the bleachers at a baseball game, not in the Senate chamber) I wasn't offended. Now people are saying that because the wife of a candidate told a reporter to "shove it", that this is an issue? Please. If this is the most substansive thing to be discussing right now in regards to the upcoming election, then we are all in big trouble.
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Reply #6 July 26, 2004 12:34:06 PM
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I'd accept her behavior much more if she wasn't denying something she said minutes before that incident. Of course, she might have simply been high and completely forgotten about what she said.
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Reply #7 July 26, 2004 12:35:01 PM
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I can see how people can get tired of the media hounds but if asked to clarify something that you said (on tape) and you deny it only to reply with "shove it" well, your asking for trouble.

Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.


Yeah...she had guts enough to contradict herself and top it off with a LAME recovery "shove it"......good call lol.
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Reply #8 July 26, 2004 12:38:18 PM
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As someone who has told people that same thing before (usually while in a bar or in the bleachers at a baseball game, not in the Senate chamber) I wasn't offended. Now people are saying that because the wife of a candidate told a reporter to "shove it", that this is an issue

It's not that she told a reporter to "shove it". It is that she contradicted something she had said minutes prior, that she responded in this manner to someone trying to clarify her own words, and that the message of her presentation was supposed to be a plea for greater civil behavior.

And I am not offended. I am more amused by her strengthening the image I had of her than anything else.
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Reply #9 July 26, 2004 6:06:50 PM
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It really must be a slow news day that this matters or that anyone cares.
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Reply #10 July 26, 2004 6:07:01 PM
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It really must be a slow news day that this matters or that anyone cares.
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Reply #11 July 26, 2004 6:07:16 PM
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It really must be a slow news day that this matters or that anyone cares.
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Reply #12 July 26, 2004 6:08:05 PM
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Sorry I don't know why that came up three times. Can you delete the extras. Oops.
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Reply #13 July 26, 2004 6:32:14 PM
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True. It's not as if anything Mrs. Heinz Kerry says matters anyway.
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Reply #14 July 26, 2004 6:37:25 PM
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True. It's not as if anything Mrs. Heinz Kerry says matters anyway.

You don't think the words of a potential First Lady carry any weight?
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Reply #15 July 26, 2004 6:43:39 PM
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Thank God for a person with guts enough to say what she thinks. Reporters are just bully goons at times and they need someone to talk back.


If she was saying what she thinks, why was she so quick to back off the fact she said "unAmerican"....when she repeatedly said that she didn't use that word, she was lying...plain and simple.

right, because asking someone what they actually meant by a word like "un-American" is just acting the bully goon. Asking someone to clarify their statements is an outrageous thing for a reporter to do.


But only if that reporter is talking to a Democratic candidate or spouse, apparently.

I'd accept her behavior much more if she wasn't denying something she said minutes before that incident.


Exactly! At least Cheney never denied it....he even said he wouldn't change it if he could have the moment back.

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Reply #16 July 26, 2004 7:28:45 PM
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If you're bold and gutsy you reiterate what you said and stand behind it.  If you don't expect to be called on anything you say and feel you are above explaining yourself, you just tell people to piss off.  I think this sort of thing just gives evidence to the hypocricy and arrogance the Kerrys seem to subscribe to.
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Reply #17 July 26, 2004 8:28:38 PM
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As if she has any importance as all. I don't understand the American obsession with the wives of their politicians. It's bizarre. If she is the real power and thinker behind the Kerry campaign then I think her opinions might be important, but if Kerry is not merely a hollow shell which she uses for political power then anything she says should be treated much like the words of Prince Philip - surprise, contempt if necessary and then by ignoring them.
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Reply #18 July 26, 2004 8:42:56 PM
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As if she has any importance as all. I don't understand the American obsession with the wives of their politicians. It's bizarre. If she is the real power and thinker behind the Kerry campaign then I think her opinions might be important

The First Lady is often considered in a different light than the spouces of other elected officials. She often has a significant impact on policy and is often used as a representative of the country. In a marriage you don't have to be the real power and thinker in order to influence your spouse. To think that even a strong man would ignore his wife, especially if she were the one with a billion dollars, is silly.
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Reply #19 July 26, 2004 8:44:15 PM
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Good for her. Apparently this reporter has repeatedly misquoted her, and Mrs. Heinz finally fought back.
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Reply #20 July 26, 2004 9:37:31 PM
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well i never.

oh my  goodness gracious.  heavens to betsy. tarnation. ill be a blankety-blank by gosh  geewhiz h cripes.

im totally mortified.  scandalized.  kerry's pretty little wifey actually said 'shove it'? 

good thing she didnt completely abandon civility by specifying exactly what she wished the guy would shove and where.

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Reply #21 July 26, 2004 9:42:28 PM
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you just tell people to piss off

gosh almighty it was bad enough she used the 'sh*** *t" word; think of the blankety-blank controversy that would have exploded had she said 'piss'

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Reply #22 July 26, 2004 9:53:47 PM
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Good for her. Apparently this reporter has repeatedly misquoted her, and Mrs. Heinz finally fought back.


In this instance, the tape of her remarks clearly shows that she DID say "unAmerican," yet when he asked her what she meant by that, she repeatedly denied having said it, and THEN told him to shove it, for supposedly asking her about something she didn't say, when she very clearly DID say it. She fought back against having to explain herself after, in my estimation, spouting off without thinking.
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Reply #23 July 26, 2004 10:06:38 PM
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She fought back against having to explain herself after, in my estimation, spouting off without thinking.


Exactly!  It isn't the language she used that bothers anyone kingbee.  I am just amazed how hypocritical it is to stand up for people who get pissed off because they are expected to explain themselves when throwing around accusations.  Heaven forbid a journalist ask for clarification of a statement.

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Reply #24 July 26, 2004 10:17:16 PM
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It isn't the language she used that bothers anyone kingbee


ive spent the past 4 hours clicking from cnn to msnbc to fox and back.  i must have seen 'teresa heintz kerry tells reporter to 'shove it'' go by at least once every three screens.   if i knew nothing more than what i saw there, i could only conclude it was all about the language.

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Reply #25 July 26, 2004 11:42:41 PM
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ive spent the past 4 hours clicking from cnn to msnbc to fox and back. i must have seen 'teresa heintz kerry tells reporter to 'shove it'' go by at least once every three screens. if i knew nothing more than what i saw there, i could only conclude it was all about the language

Thats great, but it CNN, MSNBC, and Fox headlines are not all there is to my blog. If you knew nothing more than what was there then you didn't read this article and the comments people have offered.
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