That MOO3 sure was diverse!

I disagree with the OP, it seems pretty clear to me that the three races are geared towards different styles of play.

TEC - Well suited for economic style of play and turtling, weak on cultural play

Vasari - Well suited for offensive ship play, weak on economic play

Advent - Well suited for cultural play, weak on offensive ship play

Yes the building and ship progression look similar, but look at where the races get the different techs, especially ones like trade hubs, cultural broadcasters, and phase technology. If you get cultural broadcasters as an early tech it means your much more suited to a cultural style of play than someone who doesn't get them till mid or late game.

The Races are nearly identical. Sorry, having two different buildings after half the research tree is not "diverse" - it's asinine. The "always on the run" Vasari have credits, fixed buildings, colonize worlds and have the exact same economy as the Millenium old Capitalist Empire and the Hive-Mindish Psi-Commune. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. It makes no sense and is dumbed down for no reason but to make it easier for the devs.

The game does fail at being 4x enough for me, but overall it does other things ok that make up for the lack of options.

Thanks for that worthless post. Maybe you could have said you're sorry to the developer for waltzing into his forum, squatting, and defecating all over his nice new game that has won praise from pretty much everybody except the people who post here?

I'd say the differences between races is more apparent than in most 4X games, but on the other hand, doesn't compare to most RTS games. Which is fine, because Sins is supposed to straddle the two genres.

It actually makes perfect sense -- don't forget the Vasari have been bogged down in this war for years! In order to fuel their war efforts, they had to co-opt the existing trader economy. I'd go into more detail, but the fact is your just not worth the effort.

Please don't listen to Daton. He is a troll nothing more. He finds joy in making pepole frustrated.



While the races' ships and structures all have the same roles, they are very different. A Abrams and a Challenger are both main battle tanks but both are quite different machines. A Kol, a Radiance, and a Kortul all are battleships, but preform very differently.

I can name many RTS's with different units and structures for the teams: Warcraft, Command & Conquer, Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends, Age of Mythology, Age of Empires 3, Empire Earth 3, Starcraft, Company of Heroes... the list goes on. In fact I would bet that MOST RTS games that feature multiple teams make sure the teams are VASTLY unique from one another.
Sure, every team is going to need a "scout" ship other basic units. And certain buildings are going to overlap in functionality. But I do agree with the OP. Other than having one team "have better shields" an another "cost more but more attack and armor" really isn't that special.

I have played all but Earth Empire and Company of heros and i have to say Sins units is just diverse as any of them(on the rare occansion 1/3 of Races are diffent in units and building). they all are fairly similar.

Some of you need some reflection. People complaining that Sins does not have diverse enough races (even though there is no game on the market that has diverse races) need to give some more thought before they start stabbing in the dark. Somebody said COH has diversity as far as different countries (races)go. That is not true and COG is the best RTS I have played. In fact, Sins has more diversity then COH in that aspect.

For those looking for a quick answer on the diversity topic, it is called balance plain and simple.

Now that we got our little knee jerk emo fit out of the way, lets hear your opinions on how you would like the other races more diverse then they already are.

I don't want to side track too much but come on. How can it be said that C&C: Generals or Company of Heroes has the same units? Someone playing the USA compared to the GLA which doesn't even have say, aircraft units, in C&C:Generals is like in a different world. Obviously each team is going to have soldiers with rockets as a base unit as that is within the theme of the game. And the same with Company of Heroes. I mean sure each team has tanks and soldiers with guns but thats a given. It's like saying the teams of SoaSE shouldn't have space ships as units to add variety to the teams. I agree that every time is going to need some sort of basic unit.. a scout, your first cheap warship, a colony ship, etc.
What I'm getting at through diversity and unique-ness is full on seperation. The TEC are meant to be a trade empire right? Why is their end tech a super death ray and not some sort of galactic stock exchange? Why don't they have unique trade ports that go above and beyond Advent or Vasari trade ports? The TEC should say... be able to buy mercenary ships at their trade port (just making this up as example) or outfit trade vessels as frigates (aka: purchase emergency ships) at their trade ports in a pinch.
Why do the Advent have the same class of warships as the Vasari? They should have a ship that converts other ships to the Unity ala the Monk unit in Age of Empires games.

In fact coming back to your point Schod, I'd argue that the way the ships and teams are set up now I'm having a harder time learning the game because the obvious choices I should be making with a team are not there. Right now the only advice I see to suggest what a team is "good at" is if their comes at tier 2 or tier 4.
Each time I play the game though I uncover some more little secrets about it, but one thing I guess I keep missing and people keep hinting about in their replies is that, "if you play this race the way you play one of the other two you will be SOL." What are these ways of playing? What should a TEC player be doing that a Advent player isn't? I assume a TEC player should be making a variety of frigates and warships to take over more planets to eventually conquer the map right? Is that what the Advent player is doing too? Making frigates, cruisers, long-range ships, siege ships, etc. and going to town?