The dev's have stated many times that having animated turrets will cause unacceptable performance hits. Besides most people play zoomed far enough to where you wouldnt notice any animations anyway. This is a dead issue. It aint gonna happen

Not so suspicious when you consider that the people you're dumping on the planet are really just the government, not the populace (they're already there).

Daton supcom is an exception to EVERY extreme, its a terrible comparison.

I will miss the old kol and all of its weirdness...

Will this mean other TEC ships might get updated looks, cause in that case make the Akkan pretty.

I can accept the animated turret arguement, it really isn't going to deliver much visable benefit given the normal zoom level you play at.

I can accept the other TEC ships need to look old/industrial compared to the Kol to fit the storyline.

But looking old doesn't have to mean looking like 'a flying cat litter tray' as in the case of the TEC Dreadnought.

Its the quality of the Kol that needs to be replicated in the other models not the look and feel. Consider the case of Bioshock where the Devs made old look beautiful or the countless WWII games.

If IC are out of development time, then I guess thats that you can't say you weren't warned.

Imagine if Crytek said 'yeah well you see on this level of Crysis there was a forest fire before you arrived and thats why you can't see any tree's and the textures are all the same dark grey, its all part of the story'.

Come on you know it needs to be done, are we going for game of the year here or not?   Just pause the countdown for a few weeks no one will mind, if your investors and publisher give you a hard time we'll giv em a good shoeing for you.

That's way the answer to that is lack of time to develop and implement it and not resource drain.

But it already has been discussed to death and it won't be changed. :/

Btw. a bit offtopic.



That's something I've never understood about SupCom. TA Spring has also projectile calculation (I've shout down nimble scout planes with the heavy artillery) but it doesn't use that amount of processing power that Supcom needs.

I dont give a flying crapping cahoot about their wasteful system, moving turrets is a waste of processing power thats not going to be of any use in the end.

you kidding me? I love love LOVE the Marza, I even think it looks better than the current Kol!

They can't do that. The advertising is already "in the pipeline" and can't be delayed. Ergo, they must release on schedule. I'm sure they'd love to do this to a blizzard style "its done when its done", but they can't do so. They're a much smaller development house that, simply put, can not afford to do so. Blizzard doesn't need advertising -- its so big that if it released an empty box everyone would buy it -- and Ironclad Games, and Stardock, are small enough to need advertisement. Especially when breaking out into a "new" genre.

Yeah, but the gaming community is going to get a completed version, not this incomplete beta. Where there will be even more units to help make it clear that the variation isn't cliche'd different units -> different roles -> same balance setup.

So here we have a screenshot from Eve:Online Trinity, not much going on here so this could easily be an RTS view as well as an FPS view before anyone brings up the genre argument. It merely serves as an example for computer generated graphics 2007/2008 for a space environment.



Now you could drop the SoaSE Planets, TEC Kol, TEC Colony Frig or Vasari Fighters into this picture and they wouldn't look out of place, kudos to IC job well done. You couldn't however add the other capships, frigs, cruisers or structures they would look clearly out of place and sit better with a screenshot from the Homeworld line.

More than anything else this is what I see as being the biggest weak point for SoaSE the divide in quality. There are some nice screenshots in the media section which I assume are from the single player campaign or Advent race which show good promise.

I'm only badgering on about it cos IC are almost there, and should have time for these sorts of minor changes in a release patch for around Feb08.

I think his point is that the models don't look good compared to what they could be.

No, they don't. And, generally, Sins doesn't try that either (Exactly how often do you have a couple hundred ships on screen in model form instead of icon form? That "excuse" works for turrets because they require CPU resources to move even if you can't see them moving, they don't cease to exist in icon form.)

And, let me also point out that a part of his point is that the Kol could in there and it wouldn't look to bad. As well as fighters, colony frigate, and planets in general.

I wasn't nessescarily refering to his point, there have been lots of compariosns to HW and Supcom. Its just irritateing to keep seeing "wow this reminds me so much of HW" Would tou like it if you put your work out and get a lot of "wow that looks a lot like something else"?