hi afterdnloading and installing from scratch the sins again and getting the update, played it alot yesterday with no problems, but today i saved a game and when i came back to the game it was totally frozen and crashed,.. wouldnt even exit the game with the ctrl-alt-del keys.. mouse would move but nothing and i mean nothing was clickable.. so i rebooted and tried again, same thing.. think something is messed up in the new patch, never had any crashes at all playing the game since I got it except these now on this new patch. I have a p4 3.60 w 2gig on a 680i mobo, and a nvidia 8800 w 756ram and a audigy 4 sound card