The ark could theoretically survive 30 meter waves using 30cm of wood, it displaced approximately 21000 tons, and could theoretically have a cargo weight of 17000 tons. 13 different hull designs were tested (the ark's own dimensions is listed as ship #0), and only one of them failed to meet the American Bureau of Shipping standards. The ark's own dimensions were 13 times more stable than the safety standards required.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v8/i1/noah.asp

Let's see - the heaviest dino is what, 11 tons?
http://www.dinodatabase.com/dinorcds03.asp

We can "only" fit 1545 of them on the ark. If we were to try to fill the ark with the biggest ones. Last I heard, though, only a single pair of each kind was bought to the ark, not 1500 of the largest dino. Very few dinosaurs are actually on on such a large scale. Most animals - including most dinosaurs - weigh less than a ton.

As far as the issue about water, most creationists assume that most mountains were created by catastrophic plate tectonics, so it wasn't necessary to cover Mount Everest or something like that. Current estimates are that plate tectonics could raise the ocean floor by 6500 feet. That's ignoring other factors, though.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/tools/flood-waters.asp

BTW, I've found a technical document about plate tectonics during the flood. Probably not very relevant to the discussion at hand, but very interesting nonetheless:

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=research&action=index&page=researchp_jb_largescaletectonics



There's a slight problem here: There are many types of Christians (Methodists, Catholics, Baptists, Presbyterians, Lutherans, etc). There are no agreed "heads of the Christian Church." I find myself disagreeing with many of these "heads" on many issues.

I myself tend to align with conservative Lutheran and Orthodox teachings, as they seem to follow Biblical teachings the closest.



Christianity is about belief, not necessarily love, and work isn't required. In Christianity, works are thought to be a result than a requirement.

as for the flood

every culture on the planet even the so called isolated ones all have a tail about a world wide flood

Many cultures around the world have flood stores of 8 people surviving on a big boat with animal to preserve their existence. The stores also happen about 2400 BC or about 4400 years ago.
Why do scientist hide that information.

The coral reef of Australia marine scientist say that the reef is growing at the rate that it would be about 4000 years old. A reef would not form under a turbulence of a flood so if it started building after the flood it would be about 4000 years old
The Sahara Desert is growing at the rate to be 4000 years old. A desert can’t form under a flood. If the world is millions of year old why is the biggest desert only 4000 years old?
The Bristle cone pine in California is the oldest trees in the world, at 4000 years old. The world flood killed everything even the trees. If the world is millions of years old why is the oldest tree is 4000? If it was older we would have older Bristle cone pine trees dying every year
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The greatest trick that Man has ever pulled is making others believe in God

danielost.the master of tectonics

I'm ok me, I'll believe in anything. even mad science.

Marcus

How so? I think the history of religion shows that a majority of people are inclined to believe in higher powers, without pressure from a single malign force. That isn't to say that they're RIGHT, of course.

Not everyone is a great thinker. Not everyone looks at the world with a skeptical mind. There are many people who believe what they believe because they found themselves among others who believed it. It's convenient, it's satisfying, and it gives a measure of safety. Of course, it's easy for us to point at such people and say "Look! Brainwashed! Duped by evil religion/science!"

I don't think that this is a "trick" by religious leaders. It's just human nature. Many Christians don't know the first thing about theology. Many atheists have absolutely no idea what the real scientific issues are with the theories they invoke. It's not because of active deception. People just understand as much as they want to understand.

I just wonder how many individuals would chose GOD if there weren't any outside influence
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I suggest that the idea of God is an indoctrination forced upon children and the weak minded adults in society.

God does not exist, so any other explanation is a fiction.

Marcus

I just always find it sad that good theological debate always boils down to factual accuracy. Especially since non-literalism has been accepted by the church for millenia!


Augustine, A.D. 408 WWW Link

what is the concept of time to a bacteria

what is the concept of time to a turtle

what is the concept of time to birds

what is the concept of time to a snail

in reality there is no time

time was created by god for man so that all things wouldn't happen at the sametime

Time is more than enough. no need for god.
Darwin has seen the mind of God.

Marcus

The creationist theory makes this world at aged not more than 6000 yrs,
This planet is 5 million times older, far enough time for darwin

It existed from well befor the god who is supposed to have created it.

What. OK. nonsense.

Marcus

explain why this is nonsense