i agree with him

or more likely you an idiot

WWW Link

here is a link for you

and some snipets from it

Arena of Ideas: What was the Iraqi reaction to Democrats winning in November, or do they understand the American election process?

while the intellectual people started to fear that this would be the end of the American presence in Iraq.

Arena of Ideas: What has been the Iraqi reaction to Bush's announcement of adding more troops in Baghdad?

The people feel more relief for more American presence in Baghdad. People started to hate the heinous acts of the Militia and Qaeda. People started to feel unsecured because neither the Militia nor Qaeda can protect them from the attacks. What is really going on the ground is very simple Qaeda attacks innocent people (Shiite mostly) and the Militia retaliate on innocent people too (Sunni mostly).

Arena of Ideas: A recent poll came out which said 49% of Democrats hope that Bush's plan to stabilize Iraq fails. What would you say to those people?

(this seams to include dictator col. gene and sean)

this poll is right then it would be really surprising and shocking. I can't imagine how civilized people like the American can think that way, I mean letting the factional competition affect the American image all over the world. If democracy succeed in Iraq we will be grateful to the American people regardless of the differences they have inside.

Arena of Ideas: Many Americans feel like most of Iraq is in civil war and we should pull out. Could you explain to the average American why it is important for us to stay?

Iraq will be in civil war right after the American withdrawal. In fact the only thing preventing Iraq of being in a total civil war is the American presence in it. The American forces should stay in the region not only for Iraq. They should keep a large presence because of the new changes happened the past few years in the Middle East in general. As you can see that there is a wide disturbance in the area extremists started to emerge and get control over things, for example Hamas in Palestine, Ahmedi Nijad in Iran and al Qaeda in Iraq. Those groups have only one goal to achieve and that is killing the largest number of people in the name of God.


Arena of Ideas: If there was a single thing you would hope us, as Americans, could learn about your culture which could help us understand the situation, what would that be?

The Arabic and Islamic culture in general is a tribal one based on Winning and Losing. They don't believe in middle grounds like sharing and the only language they understand is force. That’s why dictatorships and families ruled the countries of the area very well. Democracy will need long years to be adapted in the region because in comparison with dictatorship democracy will appear like a weak and tolerant way of ruling. For example, the Sheikh of the Tribe won't accept to be ruled by his subjects, so the more powerful you appear and control things they will fear you and respect you, the more tolerant you be they will disobey and despise you. This kind of mentality is what we are fighting in Iraq right now hoping we can make them change.


as i have said in the past we will/can not when this war unless/until we win the people

and as long as people like dictator col. gene and the democrat leadership keep opening their big mouths we can not win the people

which means if we lose this war it will be becouse of the people like dictator col. gene and democrat leadership

becouse as long as we look weak the iraqi people will continue to look for someone with strength



and we look weak becouse we are not UNITED

this war hasn't been lost yet

but if we listen to you and your friends in congress we will

saddam had to be taken out

the iranion leadership has to be taken out



did you ever think it was already broken

NO YOU DID NOT BECOUSE YOU WANT TO BLAME IT ALL ON BUSH

so that you can get a demo/dictator into the white house

This war hasn't been lost yet. You are incorrect. We CAN NOT win this Civil War with 160,000 troops.


Saddam had to be taken out. NOT BY THE U.S. He was an evil dictator like many others in this world but removing him from power was the job of the Iraqi People NOT the United States.

Our problem is we can not fix what we have broken. I also believe the large majority of the Iraqi People do not want us occupying their country!


Did you ever think it was already broken? NO There was no Civil War under Saddam.

NO YOU DID NOT BECOUSE YOU WANT TO BLAME IT ALL ON BUSH.

Bush is the cause of the Civil War in Iraq. When he removed Saddam the Sectarian unrest that Bush was warned about took over. The internal factions armed and began fighting to control Iraq. The foreign elements like al-Qaeda came into the country and set up operations similar to the operations they had in Afghanistan.
Bush made two major errors:Sending a non-Moslem ARMY into Iraq TO DO WHAT only the Iraqi PEOPLE CAN DO. Failed to send enough troops to prevent the sectarian violence from erupting and the foreign terrorists from setting up operations.
Those decisions were made by Bush and that is why he is responsible for the failure in Iraq. To END the violence and remove the foreign terrorists now would require a ground force of huge proportions. Every town and city would have to be taken, all the groups disarmed, the border would have to be sealed and all the foreign terrorists would have to be destroyed. Then by bruit force the fighting could be brought to an end. We do not have a ground force large enough to accomplish that mission and the cost in lives and treasure to build such a force is so great that it would not be supported by the American People. YES the war George W. Bush started is LOST and he is the one that is to blame!

wrong again all it will take is for the Iraqi people to stand up for themselves

That is correct so we should get out and let then end the violence.

What I was saying is that for our military to produce the WIN Bush is talking about and end the violence by military force would require a much larger force. The surge will not do the job. The Iraqi People and Government are not stepping up to end the violence but letting our military absorb the violence. That is why it is time to let the over 300,000 Iraqi troops we have trained and the police deal with the violence. I would have no problem dealing with the al-Qaeda cells in western Iraq but we should leave the areas where the fighting is between the Sunni and Shea factions! That would enable us to remove many of our troops and return some to the States and augment the troops in Afghanistan to end that conflict!

no we haven't


at least not what he said we were going to do this time


this time and we should have done it all along


we will take a strong hold and then hold it

rather than take it and then leave letting it become a strong hold again

CBS/AP) Thirty-five percent of Iraq veterans received mental health care during their first year home, according to a new Pentagon study. In addition, 12 percent of the more than 222,000 returning Army soldiers and Marines in the study were diagnosed with a mental problem.

This is another way we have lost from the Iraq War. The military does not have anything close to the resources needed to deal with this problem.

the only people i hear that this war is lost are people who have never been there

or people trying to bash bush no matter what the truth is

and how does this compare to Vietnam or world war 2

DoD said it does not have comparable Mental Health data from WWII & Vietnam to make a comparison. That is not the issue. The problem is that the Military DOES NOT have the medical facilities to treat the number of veterans that need help NOW. That is true of BOTH the active military and the VA. Bush has not prepared for this consequence of the unneeded war he started. It is just another example of how this man has failed our military and our country!

You want to make a comparison with other wars when we do not have the data to make the comparison. I do not care if this war has more or less mental health problems or physical injuries. That is a nice to know fact. The issue is can the people that Bush sent into harms way and are injured get the care they need? The answer is we do not have anything close to the required facilities. It is you that again try to interject other issues to deflect focus from the REAL ISSUE. I have done the research that deals with the issue at hand-- HOW are our Vets to get the medical care they NEED! At this time we do not have the needed facilities and again the Bush Budget DOES NOT ADDRESS THIS NEED!

i see you totally ignored the link again

dictator col gene

almost everything you are saying is wrong and proven by this link if you took time to read it

number of attacks are down

number of deaths are down

By RAVI NESSMAN (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
May 29, 2007 7:40 AM EDT
BAGHDAD - Eight American soldiers were killed in roadside bombings and a helicopter crash in a restive province north of Baghdad, the military reported Tuesday, making May the deadliest month of the year for U.S. troops in Iraq.

In other violence, three German computer consultants were kidnapped Tuesday from an Iraqi Finance Ministry office in Baghdad, an Iraqi government official said, and two car bombings killed 40 people in the capital, police said.

The Americans - all from Task Force Lightning - were killed Monday in Diyala as the U.S. commemorated Memorial Day, bringing the number of U.S. forces killed this month to at least 110.