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YES WE ARE WINNING IN IRAQ!

May 19, 2007 10:12:19 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums
BAGHDAD - Outgoing British Prime Minister Tony Blair, whose premiership has been dominated by his unpopular decision to join the Iraq war, arrived here on a farewell visit Saturday, and three mortar shells or rockets slammed into the compound where he met with Iraq's leaders.

BAGHDAD - The American military widened the search for three missing U.S. soldiers, detaining nine people in a raid Saturday about 25 miles northwest of where the Americans were captured last weekend.

The U.S. command said Saturday five more American soldiers were killed. One died Saturday from a roadside bomb south of Baghdad. Four died Friday - one in the western province of Anbar, one by small arms fire south of the capital and two by a roadside bomb and small arms fire in northwestern Baghdad, the military said.


TIME TO SEND THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF and Draft Dogger Dick to Fight in Iraq
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Reply #1 May 19, 2007 4:45:18 PM
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As a military officer, I would love to go into detail on how incorrect and wrong your article is. I will say this, you are not military. Your lack of support and political rampages are painful and serve no purpose. I could go into extensive detail on the success of Iraq, stories you will not hear on CNN, even on the strategic level. As you know though, “Colonel", most of these stories are "not for this room".

I thank you though for the much needed support of our troops, it's nice to know how many die each day. My suggestion to you, think about the trash you watch on TV, before you enlighten us with it. Before I go to Iraq, I don't want to have your thoughts, or those of the political machine replaying in my head.

Think "Colonel"
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Reply #2 May 19, 2007 5:47:22 PM
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This has NOTHING to do with supporting our troops. Sending our troops into combat with less then 1/3 the troops needed and without the equipment as Bush did does not support the troops. Allowing our troops to become embroiled in a Civil War is not supporting the troops. Telling them our country was in danger and that danger required sending them into combat when there WAS NO DANGER is not supporting our troops. Deploying them 3 and 4 time into combat on less then 5 years does not support the troops. I spent 30 years in the military and I know what “ SUPPORTING THE TROOPS” means. What Bush has done DOES NOT SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! KEEPING them in the middle of a Civil War by a stubborn President does not support our troops. Not providing the needed funding for the VA as Bush has done is not supporting the troops.

I support the troops not the policy of the idiot in the White House!!!
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Reply #3 May 19, 2007 7:39:26 PM
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I support the troops not the policy of the idiot in the White House!!!


i have read nothing on here that supports the statement that you support the troops at all

you support everything that the democrats stand for and everything the democrats don't stand for

and they do not support the troops at least most of them don't
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Reply #4 May 19, 2007 7:50:16 PM
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and their the ones that support a draft funny isn't it
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Reply #5 May 19, 2007 7:56:01 PM
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You're right. This war is bullshit. Fuck the Iraqi people.
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Reply #6 May 19, 2007 8:01:23 PM
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You missed my point....

Why did you waste your time writing about deaths of soldiers?

What was your point?

And tell me "Colonel", what is your strategy for success? If you believe that the joint chiefs and their staff are such idiots, what would you do.

You should know, with your 30+ years, the true danger that came with 9/11. Or did you miss that briefing?

You are just like the other retired military out there, talking with no knowledge, using a military title to get others to listen. By doing what you do, you are a detriment to the ones actually fighting.

It's hard enough to for an officer to keep his troops focused in combat, then throw on top of that having to shield them from your anti-war garbage.

But, you should already know that, shouldn't you "Colonel"?
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Reply #7 May 19, 2007 8:14:31 PM
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I have read nothing on here that supports the statement that you support the troops at all

First I support our troops by ONLY sending them into combat when our Country is in danger. That was NOT the case in Iraq. I said do not send them without the troop levels and equipment needed to accomplish the mission. I supported the troops by supporting an increase in the military to properly deal with the level of deployments. I supported the troops by including the money needed to insure the Guard and Reserve have the equipment they need. I supported the money to insure the VA had the facilities needed by the increase in injured troopers. BUSH has not done ANY of these things. When it was his turn to serve he disobeyed orders, did not attend drills and got daddy to get him into and out of the National Guard to stay out of Vietnam. His side kick Cheney used 5 deferments to avoid ALL military service.
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Reply #8 May 19, 2007 8:27:16 PM
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First I support our troops by ONLY sending them into combat when our Country is in danger.


did you forget about 9/11

did you forget that saddam was paying terriosts

did you forget that saddam taught the 9/11 terriosts how to hi-jack a plane

the national guard and reserves are being used becouse of all the downsizing we did during the 90's. but being a col. you know that.

His side kick Cheney used 5 deferments to avoid ALL military service.


and your favorite person clinton not only dodge the draft but he went to russia and supported them and the north vietnameese. but you forgot that didn't you.

and when nixon brought the troops home without permission. hillary made up a new law today and made effective yesterday to get him. but he resigned instead of putting the presidency through such a discredit. and then when her husband got in trouble under those same laws. they didn't count. and when it was his turn does he do the honorable thing no. BUT THEN CHARACTER DOESNT MATTER RIGHT.


character is the only thing that matters
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Reply #9 May 19, 2007 8:27:50 PM
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And tell me "Colonel", what is your strategy for success?

There is no winning this civil war with 160,000 American Troops. Before Bush went into Iraq he was warned that our troops would get bogged down in a Civil War. He was told that we needed 500,000 troops to maintain control of Iraq when Saddam fell. Bush sent our military into a NO WIN situation because he attacked a Moslem Country that did not attack us or present any danger to this country. He enabled a Civil War to emerge and we enabled an Iraqi government like the government in Iran.

The only way we can achieve a Military victory in Iraq is if we were able and willing to send an overwhelming Military force into the country, disarm all factions, seal the border and destroy all foreign terrorists. That today would require far more then 500,000 ground forces which we do not have and for which there is no support by the American People. The Iraqi Government is a joke. They are unable or unwilling to control the violence and whenever we leave there will most likely be an expanded civil war until one side destroys all the opposing factions.
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Reply #10 May 19, 2007 8:28:09 PM
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When it was his turn to serve he disobeyed orders, did not attend drills and got daddy to get him into and out of the National Guard to stay out of Vietnam


and all of this was found to be false info

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Reply #11 May 19, 2007 10:14:34 PM
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"Colonel", Before I get to your non-answer on your highly intelligent no plan, use a scapegoat for strategy; formally called the democratic party. Can you please answer my first two questions? I'm dying to hear the answer "Colonel".
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Reply #12 May 19, 2007 10:19:33 PM
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Wally (AKA KFC's son): When are you shipping out?
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Reply #13 May 20, 2007 7:20:26 AM
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did you forget about 9/11

did you forget that Saddam was paying terrorists?

did you forget that Saddam taught the 9/11 terrorists how to hi-jack a plane

9/11 had NOTHING to do with Saddam. In 2002 Saddam had NO military capability as the Pentagon report stated to attack ANYONE. In 2002 he was ONLY capable of operating in the central section of Iraq. The CIA advised Bush that Saddam would only use any WMD against people within his country and that he did not have a nuclear program. The danger to America was bin Laden and al Qaeda. The CIA warned Bush and Rice of that danger. We were correct to attack Afghanistan but we NEVER finished the job because we attacked Iraq that posed NO danger to our country. Bush turned his back on our military when he attacked Iraq after being warned that would most likely result in getting our military bogged down in a sectarian war in Iraq. He was also advised that to control Iraq after Saddam fell would take about 500,000 troops. Op Plan 1003 which was carefully planned by the people who successfully conducted the first Gulf War said that when Saddam Fell to CONTROL Iraq would require 500,000 troops. Powell, Baker and the former Army CoS told Bush what was needed. Bush turned his back of all that advice, planning and sent 150,000 troops. Bush has NEVER supported our Troops. In 2000 he said the Army and Marines were TOO Small. For six years he did NOTHING to request an increase in the authorized strength of the ground forces. I support our troops and regard them far more then GWB. It is time to remove our troops from the sectarian fighting and turn that over to the Iraqi Forces. If they choose to not end the Civil War then we should redeploy our troops to insure the Civil War does nor spread outside Iraq.

Our options are limited and not good because of George W. Bush!!!
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Reply #14 May 20, 2007 7:33:28 AM
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You should know, with your 30+ years, the true danger that came with 9/11. Or did you miss that briefing?

I do and the invasion of Iraq moved us further from protecting our country from another 9/11 or worse as follows:

We diverted our forces and never completed the eradication of those that planned 9/11 in Afghanistan.
We helped the radical Islamic elements that hate us to recruit more people that would be willing to attack us. The NIE concluded the Iraq war has made our security situation WORSE,
We have destroyed most of the equipment of our land forces- both active and reserve.
We have dangerously over stretched our ground military and spent about $500 Billion on a war that has made us less safe.
We have killed 3,500 and injured 29,000 with NO END IN SIGHT.
We helped create a new government in Iraq like the government that we can not deal with in Iran.
We have destabilized the region just as Bush was warned BEFORE he invaded Iraq. This is not a case of Monday Morning Quarterbacking. Bush was WARNED before he invaded Iraq.

That is what I understand about our invasion of Iraq! That is what the FACTS clearly show.
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Reply #15 May 20, 2007 7:39:03 AM
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His side kick Cheney used 5 deferments to avoid ALL military service.


and your favorite person Clinton not only dodge the draft but he went to Russia and supported them and the north Vietnamese. but you forgot that didn't you.

That is Correct. However Clinton did not send our military into am impossible and unneeded war that Killed 3,500 and injured 29,000.

P.S. Clinton is NOT my favorite President!
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Reply #16 May 20, 2007 7:43:17 AM
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"character is the only thing that matters." If you believe that then to support Bush and Cheney is hypocrisy!
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Reply #17 May 20, 2007 8:57:45 AM
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"Colonel", you're wasting my time and anyone else who reads your garbage. You stated your one point over and over....trust me, we got it. You thought Saddam was a good person, minding his own business, and big bad America took him out. We need more troops....ok...gotcha again.
I hope you get your liberal president elected in 2008, bring in your other Clinton. She'll do a great job with this situation.

TW, I can not confirm nor deny, I've been called everybody so far. Let me stay as Col Mustard with the Candlestick in the Library, also, as soon as I get my bags packed (aka custom answer). You know mixing jobs with dates with units is bad juju. It's hard enough getting the "Colonel" to give me an answer on why he feels it's important to put up a death toll. All he does is babble about not having numbers, bad Bush, he's like a little CNN puppet, all you have to do is pull a string.
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Reply #18 May 20, 2007 11:01:30 AM
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".trust me, we got it. You thought Saddam was a good person, minding his own business, and big bad America took him out. We need more troops....ok...gotcha again."

No you have not gotten it. I NEVER said Saddam was a "GOOD PERSON". In fact I said just the opposite. What I said is we were not in danger from Saddam. That is VERT different from saying he was a good person!

The situation in Iraq is NOT improving and all we are accomplishing is killing and injuring more of our troops, spending more money and providing a recruiting tool for the radical Moslems to gather MORE NUTS that will be willing to attack us in the future. We do not have any GOOD OPTIONS because of Bush and the choices me made.
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Reply #19 May 20, 2007 1:53:38 PM
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The situation in Iraq is NOT improving and all we are accomplishing is killing and injuring more of our troops,


boots on the ground say things are getting better

now whom do we listen to boots on the ground or a arm chair quarter back

the minority leader in the senate just went over there to some of these cities

he stated that a year ago he wouldn't have been able to walk around these cities or even go to these cities

so again who do we listen to an arm chair quarter back or to the boots on the ground


of course we have the other choice to listen to people who say or do nothing unless it has something to do with gloom and doom
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Reply #20 May 20, 2007 2:37:55 PM
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boots on the ground say things are getting better


The number of Americans and Iraqi's killed and injured say otherwise!
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Reply #21 May 20, 2007 4:59:23 PM
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boots on the ground say things are getting better


The number of Americans and Iraqi's killed and injured say otherwise!


i will still take the word of the boots on the ground over an arm chair quarter back

whose only purpose is to belittle the united states becouse we don't all believe like you


i am happy that not everyone agrees with me
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Reply #22 May 20, 2007 5:07:11 PM
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boots on the ground say things are getting better


The "boots on the ground" say what they are told to say.
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Reply #23 May 20, 2007 8:41:35 PM
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The "boots on the ground" say what they are told to say.


and the news agencies mostly say what will make it look bad for the president
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Reply #24 May 21, 2007 7:59:25 AM
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7 More killed yesterday and 71 this month. Over 100 last month. The boots on the ground sound like Bush-- They ignore the facts and substitute what they want (and what we all want) for the truth!

When Blair and Bush were in the Rose Garden telling the world they both did the "right thing" by invading Iraq it was clear they live in a perpetual state of denial. No rational person knowing how the invasion of Iraq has turned out could conclude that we did the right thing.

No person or agency can make Bush look BAD. That job is one that Bush himself has mastered in EVERYTHING he does and says!
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Reply #25 May 21, 2007 8:29:35 AM
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No person or agency can make Bush look BAD. That job is one that Bush himself has mastered in EVERYTHING he does and says!


yes master

you know more than anyone else on the planet

i believe we lost more people during the battle of the bulge than we have in this whole war

and it is sure a good thing you weren't around then becouse you would have been telling america that we had lost world war 2

or do you do that anyways

i agree bush has done some things wrong

but saddam had to be taken out and so does the iran government

you and your buddies are so stupid

you ignore the info from one of saddams own generals

the weapons were transfered to saria and the nuke program was given/sold to iran

BUT I GUESS YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES WOULD HAVE WAITED FOR HIM TO USE THOSE ON US BEFORE YOU DECIDED HE HAD TO GO.

oh wait i forgot you think that we deserved to be attacked on 9/11 becouse we voted for bush instead of the idiot al gore.
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