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Reply #51 May 7, 2007 8:26:57 AM
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drmiler

“Fool. I can and DO live on 30K AND I own a house.”

If you earn 30K and support Bush you are truly the FOOL. On 30K you can not purchase the average priced home today in MOST areas. I do not know where you live or what type of home you own or how you got your home but if you think most people can live on 30K today you are an idiot as well as a FOOL!
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Reply #52 May 7, 2007 8:43:44 AM
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Just as soon as my annual income is in the top 10% and your income is below the federal poverty line


i get 600 a month i am one of the dead beats

and according to the democrats if you make 200,000 a year your rich

and i knew you would come up with some excuse as to why it wasn't going to be your money

you want to redistribute wealth as long as it isn't your wealth

just like any other democrat all words no action

and bush can't make my tax cuts permanent


and again it is the congress that pays ie votes on spending not the president

the president only proposes a budget

and if we really wanted to balance the budget and pay off the debt we would stop spending more and more on intitledments

you said you owned business how many of those went under becouse you were just giving money away to your employies for doing nothing
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Reply #53 May 7, 2007 10:11:43 AM
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“And according to the democrats if you make 200,000 a year you’re rich

And I knew you would come up with some excuse as to why it wasn't going to be your money.”

The REASON is I am not among the RICH!!!!

“and if we really wanted to balance the budget and pay off the debt we would stop spending more and more on entitlements”

If you ONLY get $600 per month someone or some government program must be providing you help. Section 8, Medicaid, Food Stamps or help from some non governmental agency or person. NO one can pay ALL their living expenses on $600 a month!
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Reply #54 May 7, 2007 10:18:14 AM
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“And again it is the congress that pays i.e. votes on spending not the president”


You are incorrect.

The President sends a budget to Congress.
Congress passes both a budget and actual spending appropriations.
The President approves the spending Congress passes.

Thus it is BOTH the Congress and the President that approve the spending. The only way spending would be approved ONLY by Congress is if Congress passed a spending bill, the president vetoed the bill and Congress passed the spending bill OVER the President's VETO!
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Reply #55 May 7, 2007 1:26:19 PM
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Thus it is BOTH the Congress and the President that approve the spending. The only way spending would be approved ONLY by Congress is if Congress passed a spending bill, the president vetoed the bill and Congress passed the spending bill OVER the President's VETO!


isn't checks and balances such a great thing

and the only way this could get any better is if the president had line item veto

that way a 10 million dollar relief bill doesn't become 100 million dollar pork bill
which is what happened when reagan was in office
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Reply #56 May 7, 2007 1:30:07 PM
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If you ONLY get $600 per month someone or some government program must be providing you help. Section 8, Medicaid, Food Stamps or help from some non governmental agency or person. NO one can pay ALL their living expenses on $600 a month!


i live with and help my father

he wants me available to do what he wants at the drop of a hat

and the 600 is ssi

my medical is through the va

and he gets about 1200 social and va benefits

i give him 400 a month for rent

and use some of that for food
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Reply #57 May 7, 2007 1:33:54 PM
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“isn't checks and balances such a great thing”

Only when they work. There were NO effective checks on Bush for the first 6 years because the GOP gave him everything he wanted. There was also no oversight by Congress. They just allowed Bush to do as he pleased!

“and the only way this could get any better is if the president had line item veto”

NOT ON YOUR LIFE. I would NEVER give a President that power seeing how Bush acted. We need a Balanced Budget Constitutional amendment!
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Reply #58 May 7, 2007 1:34:00 PM
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as far as the money i asked you for i didn't/don't want it i didn't earn it

i was making a point and that is no one is going to reach into their own pocket to redistribute wealth. they want someone else to pay in your case you want drenginal to do it

and i do know of one person who gives/or at least gave 300 million a year to charity. but your buddy bill thought he was to rich and tried to take away his company. now that he has retired i don't know if he is still giving that much money.
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Reply #59 May 7, 2007 2:22:04 PM
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danielost

My point is that we need to balance the budget. People like dregional would do that by cutting all help to people that need help and not keeping the promises made to workers and need their Social Security and Medicare benefits. I say let's restore the Tax rates for the wealthy to the pre Bush rates because they who can afford to pay a little more they are the BIG WINNERS from the Bush tax cut. That added tax revenue from the top 10% would be used not to fund NEW benefits but to help pay for what we are currently spending!
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Reply #60 May 7, 2007 4:39:41 PM
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and i say if you tax the rich all you do is increase the price of things

that is called inflation i am sure you have heard of that
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Reply #61 May 7, 2007 5:12:05 PM
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By not balancing the budget and allowing the interest we must fund to increase the way Bush has done will bankrupt this country. This can not continue. The higher tax rates during the 1990's did not increase the price of things more then today. Your rational is just an excuse to justify a fiscal policy that will risk our future and is a guise to mask what is simply GREED on the part of the wealthy. The rich got a tax cut under Bush that was not justified and has added Trillions to the national debt. The fact that only 1/2 of the lost tax revenue from the tax cut is made up by the added revenue from growth is like selling something for $50 that has costs of $100. In the end result is a disaster!! The Comptroller General has documented this fact concerning the Bush tax Cuts! The experience from Reagan proved the same thing!!!!
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