The commanding general is just about the ONLY general that believes we can "WIN" with the added 30,000. Bush found a 3 star that was willing to say he would try a plan that other senior generals said would not work and get his 4th star. In the end, the surge will change nothing and when we leave Iraq there will be an upsurge in the Civil war until one faction comes out on top! The government we enabled to be established is not capable of governing Iraq and is moving closer to Iran.

Bush was handed a report on 6 August 2001 that warned of the 9/11 attack.

As did Clinton. IE: Did nothing. Clinton KNEW the spit was going to hit the fan and there is documented proof of that. And "still" did nothing.

The commanding general is just about the ONLY general that believes we can "WIN" with the added 30,000. Bush found a 3 star that was willing to say he would try a plan that other senior generals said would not work and get his 4th star. In the end, the surge will change nothing and when we leave Iraq there will be an upsurge in the Civil war until one faction comes out on top! The government we enabled to be established is not capable of governing Iraq and is moving closer to Iran.

And someone knows more than the commanding General? You? President Bush? I highly doubt it. And doing a plan to get his 4th star does not make him a genius. It makes him nothing but greedy.

You know something else? You're "really" starting to sound stupid.

somilia

NEWS FLASH

The Cuts in our military that took place during the Clinton Administration started and were planned by Bush 41 with Cheney as sec of defense. Better look back at the facts!

NEWS FLASH The Cuts in our military that took place during the Clinton Administration started and were planned by Bush 41 with Cheney as sec of defense. Better look back at the facts!

YOU better look at the facts...

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drmiler

Hey DIM WIT. The cuts in the military started during Bush 41 The Peace Dividend from the Soviet Union ending. Those cuts were outlined in the plan prepared by Cheney when he was Sec of Defense. Those cuts continued during the Clinton years. THOSE ARE THE FACTS!

see i said it was time for the liberal to start calling me names

Bush and Chaney are the leaders of this country and they LIED. They may not be America but they speak for America as our leaders and they LIED!!!!! The New Book “At the Center of the Storm” by the former CIA Director will blow the roof off the White House. It is reported to document that Bush and Cheney in fact lied about the danger from Saddam. Today Dick Durban said he was one of the few members of Congress that saw all the intelligence and in fact he know Bush and Cheney were not telling the truth but was unable to speech out because what he knew was classified. On April 30th the book will be released and it looks as if Congress will call Tenant to testify before Congress. Bush will not be able to lie his way out of what Tenant has to say. After all Bush gave him the Medal of Freedom when he retired from being Director of the CIA.

No, Many members of Congress were not given all the classified Intelligence that did not support what Bush and Cheney were telling us. In addition it was not Congress that proposed invading Iraq under the smoke screen that Saddam was a danger. That was Bush and Cheney. There was no ground swell in congress to invade Iraq they were reaction to Bush and the lies he told them. Dick Durban was one that had ALL the Intel and he DID NOT vote for the resolution. What Tenant is saying is just what Gen Zinni said and he too was unable to come forward at the time because the Intel that disputed what Bush and Cheney were telling us was kept secret! America's two top leaders LIED to our Military, to Congress and to the American people about Saddam and the danger he and Iraq posed to our country! They also supplied incorrect information to Gen. Powell when he gave his 5 Feb 2005 speech to the UN about the danger posed by Saddam.

Half truths become you col. Gene. Yes, the peace dividend you so brilliantly talk about, if you remember, (doubt you will or if you do you won’t admit it) I told you about this months ago and you failed to acknowledge it. You left out the other part of your brilliant observation. That as soon as the Soviet Union fell the democrats wanted a “peace dividend”. The idea was that now that the only enemy we had in the entire world was gone, (thanks to Ronald Reagan and his reckless actions, according to the democrats) we could stop wasting money on the military and their expensive toys and use the money on projects that were important like social programs. They demanded that the President cut some funding to the military so the Congress could waste, I mean spend it on good things like the national endowment of the arts. No one believed that China, North Korea, or Al Qaeda were a danger on the left so as far as they were concerned there were no other threats to the United States. To placate them cuts were made because Congress holds the purse strings and could easily cut funding as they are trying to do now to get their way. The threats were there to see but no one in Congress wanted to see it. Just like now, we are in a war, and the politicians are screaming that it is a political problem, it is a law enforcement problem but it is not either it is a declared war! Wars have only two outcomes, One side wins and one side loses. Whoever gives up loses. Your side wants to give up!

“You left out the other part of your brilliant observation. That as soon as the Soviet Union fell the democrats wanted a “peace dividend”. The idea was that now that the only enemy we had in the entire world was gone,”

You left out the part that it was Bush 41 that laid the plan to use that peace dividend. The cuts in military spending were planned by the GOP and Clinton continued those reductions. We did cut the military and CIA too much. However that was the fault of both parties!

All that has nothing to do with the LIES Bush and Chehey used to get Congress to approve the invasion of Iraq. I bet we learn a lot from the former CIA Director.

Paladin77


“Each member of Congress was given the opportunity to read the exact intelligence the President had.”

That is what we do not know. If a member of Congress had access to ALL the Intel and voted to give Bush authorization to invade Iraq they LIED just like Bush and Cheney. However, it was Bush and Cheney that sought the invasion not Congress saying we must invade Iraq. We know Bush and Cheney had the intelligence that did not support the premise that we were in danger from Iraq. Thus my statement that the two top leaders of our country LIED to our Military and the American people who did not have access to the intelligence that Saddam was NO danger to the U.S. is CORRECT!

dainielost

Congress has the right to impose restrictions on how money is spent. They have EVERY Right to say after a date no more money can be spent to support combat operations in Iraq. I believe they should continue to send Bush the SAME BILL and if Bush veto's these bills it will be Bush that cuts off the funding. Congress has provided all the money Bush requested. When the money runs out because Bush has vetoed the supplemental funding he will have to bring the troops home because he will not have the authority to continue the war without the funding.