Well, I top out around 350KBps... but that is rare so probably a little less than that. So I'm looking at around half an hour or less

What Hizaed said, since its a school day for me, i'll probably be downloading once I get home..which will probably be with every one else.

100KB/s here... But I'll get it, I'm sure of it

Who cares how long it takes, youll get it eventually.

You guys hav been waiting for months, I am sure you can wait for a few hours.

See its not the fact that I dont know things about capatalism, its just that I resent the system, it gives way to greedy people to destroy our planet.

(That means you Schem )

I feel that it enourages a competative nature that drives people to greatness. Here is the thing though. There is no perfect form of government, unless you labotomize the populace and make them 100% loyal, unoriginal, mindless slaves. Any form has its bad points, I think its more about forming the right government at the right place and the right time.

To this I only have to say that most economic textbooks, or any theory books dont apply well to the real world.

Actually, we have more than enough food in the world for everyone to have quite a bit more than they need. The problem is getting it to them...

are you aware of the prey-predator dependancy cycle?
if we take that much food, we burn out the ecocycles, and there will certainly not be food for long.

Sharing is destruction of all that matters; the planet.

nobody can say for sure what would happen if we tried an "equal" lifestyle, but most people agree that after a few decades, there won't be any "lifestyle" left (dustbowl anyone?). and thats living on bare minimums. Our environment cannot (so believed) support everyone on this planet.

unfortunately we cannot afford the leisure of the fullblown ethics that people prefer. yes, killing 3 billion people is not the way to go, but we cannot afford to pay for everyone.

additionally what would happen if we started meeting the needs of countries where the maternity rate is something like 500%? (10 kids per couple). our population would skyrocket in a matter of years, not decades.

something like 70% of the world's people are in poverty (thanks India, thanks China.) 5% doesn't do much towards allieving that.

and the point of government birth control. thats where I have conflicting moral issues, I don't want to tell anyone "no you cannot have any more kids", but I know that unless something happens to drastically change things soon, it will be nescessary.

dammit, why can't everone just have enough mind to realize what they do is selfdestructive?

I still believe that telling people not to have kids is morally reprehensible. its like killing people.

aha! you understand!
welcome to the dark side. logic.