Stop.  Please stop.

I'm so tired of all this.

I understand Dharma.  It IS getting old.

No, she has been sniping at me for the last 6 months on every blog around here.  Do I need to copy and paste for you?  lately, she has started to outright lie.  And attack those who will not abandon me due to her lies.

I am exposing her lies.  That makes me look petty?  Exposing liars makes someone look petty!  Must be a democrat.

Look John, I have tried for the last 6 months to ignore her and her barbs.  But she has written blog after blog with lie after lie.  Where are your comments on her blogs?  About her lies?

Please, if you want to give me advice, live it first.  Dont lecture to me when you hold a double standard.

I don't want to get in the middle here but oh well here I go!

Doc I read the "join my blacklist" reply by Whip as a threat.  Not a feat accompli.  I'm just wondering if you tried to reply and saw you were black listed?  I ask because in my experience with Whip she is honest, brutally so, and why would she lie about something so small when she is so honest about all the big stuff?

It doesn't make sense to me, so that is why I'm askin.  

Trudy,

I can't remember which article it was in or I'd link it. Anyway, Brad asked LW if she wanted her articles back and she said "nah."  So she can have them anytime she wants.

Trudy I don't know much about you but I do know you suffer from R/A.  Do you take pain meds for it, ever?  LW has several very painful physical health issues, she could be prescribed more legal narcotics than any one addict could ever use.  With each of these prescriptions she would have a co-pay.  Even if it is only five dollars a prescription, you can see how that'd add up pretty quick.  She has found an alternative to the "wonderful" chemicals with all their wonderful side effects and it is much cheaper.

I don't personally smoke pot.  But if I was in pain (or needed it for psychological reasons..ie, mood stabilizing)and found it relieved that pain better than any other chemical you can rest assured I'd do it.  Legal or not.  And I don't think I am an exception.

I think it is a CRIME in this country that pot can't be used more for medicinal purposes.  But that's another story.

So to say LW should spend the money on bills...well that is deceitful because part of her "bills" without pot is co-pay.  And co-pay is more costly than a bag of pot when you start adding prescription on top of prescription.

In most groups of people there is usually a smaller group that doesn't get along.  I am in that smaller group my fair share.  While I can't speak to you Doc because your thing with LW goes long before I got here...and frankly I don't see it ever being resolved.  Though I wish it was...shesh, I'm not holding my breath.

Trudy on the other hand.  I started reading your blog when I first came to JU.  I thought you were sweet and I liked reading about your life.  I was right there when you flipped out on LW for saying "chin up."  I was just as shocked as she when you lost it...and then later when you said it was a "trigger" for you...I thought, ok..that makes sense, now all is well.  Back to the old Trudy.

But the truth is you never got back to that old Trudy.  You'd write a couple good articles, a bunch of filler, and then you'd freak out a little bit again on someone for something minor.  And each time I wondered, "What just happened?  Why did she respond like that?"

I stopped reading you almost completely when you bowed up in attitude against me on one of your articles.  I can't even remember what it was about but you got really defensive.  I remember thinking, "As many times as I've responded on her articles and she acts like this?  She didn't even ask if I meant offense, just assumed I did."  You never even asked for clarification, just dove right off the deep end.

It was then I realized, what you did to LW, you will do to anyone eventually.  It seems like all it takes is for you to disagree with someone and when they defend their position you go a little postal and the more its discussed the more postal you become.

I don't come to JU for that kind of drama.  So except for maybe three articles, I haven't read you since.  And honestly those were accidents because I wasn't paying attention to the author.  I even responded on one or two before I realized they were yours.  I'm not saying that to hurt your feelings because I believe you post your articles to the forums for people to enjoy, learn, chat, and READ.

You lost a pretty faithful reader with all the hysterics.  I can't imagine I am the only one who dropped you from their "must read" list.

All that to say this.  You've experienced some pretty incredible things.  Write about those Trudy.  That is what you do best. 

You probably wasn't here when it was lw vs:  Phoneix boy, Marcie, Dharma, Dr. Guy, me, Manofpeace, Lucas, any more I don't remember.  So I can't wait to see who's next.  So you've stopped reading me because I wrote an article telling lw it was mean to lambaste Gerl.  That's ok by me.  I don't need people to like or applaud me.  It's nice to meet people that have things in common,  and that can support each other.  I, however,  won't sit by and watch quietly while lw tears into someone who hasn't done anything to her. We've lost bloggers that lw has ripped into.  I say another 4 or 5 months,  it'll be someone else.

Must read list?  Well I don't know about that.  I only generate about 50 hits per article,  and maybe 4-6 comments.  Can't be too many more to lose.

Yes, I've experienced a lot of things in life.  Yes,  I've written about them.  One person "accused" me of only writing about my medical stuff.  So I actually went and counted how many blogs were about my medical history and found that there was approx. 20 articles,  one page.  and 5 pages of regular blogging,  ect.

I think we only see what we want to see.

quote]You lost a pretty faithful reader with all the hysterics.

I think what LW did,  critizing a gal that's never said a word to her, was crap.  Gerl has'nt ever gone ballistic on bloggers and lw just tried to invalidate the gal's problems and feelings.  Then she turns around and writes about her own problems...

Picking on Gerl was mean,  this gal is only half lw's age,  and doesn't have the life experiences that lw has had,  lw could have been empathetic,  since she HAS been through a lot,  yet she chose to berate her.  Mean. 

There's nothing wrong with writing about one's problems,  I guess it's ok as long as you're lw,  right?

Geesh,  I'm really disgusted that no one else stepped up to the plate and defended Gerl.  Hysterics?  I don't think so Tova,   

As you'll see in the following paragraph,  all of one's meds won't come to more than $20.00 a month.  How in God's name is that deceitful??  

Trudy I don't know much about you but I do know you suffer from R/A. Do you take pain meds for it, ever? LW has several very painful physical health issues, she could be prescribed more legal narcotics than any one addict could ever use. With each of these prescriptions she would have a co-pay. Even if it is only five dollars a prescription, you can see how that'd add up pretty quick. She has found an alternative to the "wonderful" chemicals with all their wonderful side effects and it is much cheaper. Tova:  Yes,  I have RA,  just like LW,  and I take Methotrexate for it.  It's a medication used to treat cancer.  I also have osteoarthritis,  and gout which is a form of arthritis.  I take 3 800 miligrams of Ibuprofen for  the osteo and allopurinol for gout.   I also have the same income as LW,  and my co-pay is $1.00 to $3.00 maximum, for each medication. the most I have to pay a month is $20.00.  That's for ALL of my monthly needs.  BTW,  I take 12-15 meds a day for a multitude of health issues.  I think $20.00 a month,  for all the meds one could ever need,  is far cheaper than marijuanna.  I don't know what marihunna costs,  however it has to be more expensive than $20.00 a month. What I think is that people like it when I"m quiet and never rock the boat.  Sometimes the boat has to get rocked,  in order to wake people up.  It isn't nice to berate a blogger that's having issues.  And for the record,  the last time I let lw comment on my blog,  she called me a bitch,  so I decided I don't need her taking a poop on it.  It IS possible to debate,  even argue without resorting to name calling and belittling people like John did, and I quote him: " Next time Whip is missing around here for a couple of days I think we may need to send the cops to Trudy's house so they can find Whip chopped up in the freezer." That's the kind of stuff that makes this community toxic.  That's really some pathetic way to talk to people. Reason for Karma (Optional) Successfully updated karma reason! We're looking up the edits for this post... Trudygolightly Join Date 08/2004 +8 Reply #13 August 8, 2006 11:18:42 PM from JoeUser Forums I do not know you well enough to like or dislike you trudy ok? That's fair MM,  I"m fine with it. Reason for Karma (Optional) Successfully updated karma reason! We're looking up the edits for this post... Abanamore Join Date 01/0001 +13 Reply #14 August 9, 2006 6:08:31 AM from JoeUser Forums The mystery of the ages is how someone like Moderateman, who acts like the mouthpiece of world Jewery and Israel in particular, can continue to kiss the anti semitic asses of whip and her so called husband.... can anyone explain that? Reason for Karma (Optional) Successfully updated karma reason! We're looking up the edits for this post... Dr Guy Join Date 09/2004 +129 Reply #15 August 9, 2006 7:05:05 AM from JoeUser Forums I'm just wondering if you tried to reply and saw you were black listed? Yes I did. Reason for Karma (Optional) Successfully updated karma reason! We're looking up the edits for this post... just john Join Date 10/2004 +19 Reply #16 August 9, 2006 9:39:19 AM from JoeUser Forums No, she has been sniping at me for the last 6 months on every blog around here. Do I need to copy and paste for you? lately, she has started to outright lie. And attack those who will not abandon me due to her lies. You're right, I don't know the whole of this argument. I took a break from JU when things got out of control. However, I said nothing about the first lies article. I said this made you look petty simply becuase it was the second one I had seen in a couple of days. Ther is no need to read anything else into my words. I was just commenting on the single incident. Trudy, Did you care to look and see that Gerl... (whatever her name is) and Whip have a long history? Did you know they used to chat on one of the programs(I think it was MSN). No. You didn't bother to find out the facts before jumping off the deep end. Tova said some really good things to you and you took her words and used them for your sadistic needs. You have issuses, but we all do. You won't even go to Whips blog and comment on the fact that you only singled her out on Gerl..'s blog. Several other people gave some pretty harsh comments as well. I am going to give you a link and I think you should take a few minutes a read it. Link Reason for Karma (Optional) Successfully updated karma reason! We're looking up the edits for this post... Tova7 Join Date 09/2005 +115 Reply #17 August 9, 2006 9:49:40 AM from JoeUser Forums HAHAHAHA.  Thanks for not blacklisting me Doc!   I tried to enter this from the forum but it wouldn't go....so I came to your blog to try. Freaky. Ok, Trudy. We'll have to agree to disagree on how LW should spend her money.  It's none of my business and I only know what she shares.  I do believe anyone who can do what she does on her budget is def doing something RIGHT.  And I believe her when she says she doesn't have to pay for her pot.  So yeah, in the end, much cheaper than co-pay. You probably wasn't here when it was lw vs:  Phoneix boy, Marcie, Dharma, Dr. Guy, me, Manofpeace, Lucas, any more I don't remember.  So I can't wait to see who's next.  So you've stopped reading me because I wrote an article telling lw it was mean to lambaste Gerl.  That's ok by me.  I don't need people to like or applaud me.  It's nice to meet people that have things in common,  and that can support each other.  I, however,  won't sit by and watch quietly while lw tears into someone who hasn't done anything to her. We've lost bloggers that lw has ripped into.  I say another 4 or 5 months,  it'll be someone else. I understand she has fought with people Trudy, but I was hoping you would stay on point.  I was discussing your "change" since the first blow up with LW.  That was long before Geryl.  Your blog went down hill long before Geryl.  So it makes me wonder if these tiffs with LW are ways to get more readers?  Or if maybe there is something in your life causing you to to be so off balance. I only generate about 50 hits per article I think your blog probably got much more traffic before that fight with LW.  People didn't stop reading you because of LW though.  I stopped because often I would want to comment, but I never knew if that was the day you'd freak out on anything I said.  As I watched you do to LW and then in small degrees to others and then finally to me. I don't think any of the people you listed above need you to defend them.  And JU obviously didn't mean to them what it means to you because they left it behind.  I don't think LW or anyone else (except admin) could make someone leave who really wants to be here. I guess it all boils down to why you are here.  If you are here to share your life and blog...or are you here as some avenging angel determined to protect all those who can't protect themselves and look for slights at every turn? I was kinda hoping it was the former. Because you are a much better writer when you stop focusing on others. I see real haphazard malice here Trudy, and that can't be good for your health.  I understand anger, boiling festering anger, and what it can do to your guts. I am NOT suggesting you keep the boat steady all the time.  But this seems to be a weekly hate fest kinda thing with you.  It can't be healthy, mentally or physically. Thank you for replying. 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