Time to acknowledge the game is buggy ?

Well, your particular problem is not one that comes up often. So I doubt that it is entirely the games fault. Yes, several people have CTDs (my last game had three) but freezing at random spots isn't something that I have heard anyone have.

You might want to try checking your memory. It is possible that you have bad RAM. It is worth running it through a test http://www.memtest.org/. The reason I suggest this is because I have had similar problems with a different game and it turned out to be RAM. It may be faults with other hardware also. Sometimes these things happen and only show up in certain games.

Lastly, it might be incompatibility with something you have. Developing PC games always have these problems since you can't test it on all possible setups.

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No, the game isn't totally buggy. Yes, lots of people have problems. But it's selling so many amounts, that it's a tiny percentage.
Patronising I know, but have you patched it? (if you say no, then prepare for a horrific death

)
It can be a lot of things, like RAM, a memory leak, firewalls, antispyware, or even some hidden malware. Make sure none of these are running when you play the game, and look for hidden drivers in control panel to make sure you DON'T have malware or a virus.

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Personally i've only ever had one CTD -- and it was probably my fault for trying to do too much with my computer at once -- and i'm using outdated video drivers (For some reason Obsession #2 -- World of Warcraft doens't like newer video drivers with my video card)

I've had some gripes with gameplay issues, but the game's been rock solid for me.

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Im no expert, but often, (no offense stardock) if you have window blinds, i do, and it rocks, but IF you do, then you are aware of the irratating pop-up that occurs. (i did NOT download from stardock, from window blinds.com or something) that pop-up could be your problem. when i was playing age of mythology, the game locked up and froze, and the mose nearly died. i closed the window, and *bing* window blinds unavodable pop-up. this could be your problem.

also most window programs or internet things that are runningcan hamper gamplay. (or... close everything and turn off active 24/7 virus protection etc) hope you fix it/goes away!

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Actually you may be on to something : the RAM.

I happen to have the very same problem with Civ IV.

Thanks very much for the link.
Which one exactly is the test I should run there ?

And yes, I have the latest patch .......... and a firewall.

I tried turning off anti virus program (Norton) but that didn't help.

PS I tried to run the memtest86 + v1.65 but my comp does not know how to run a .tar program.
Which program do I need to run this ?
Thanks in advance.

What is Window Blinds ???

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Personally i've only ever had one CTD -- and it was probably my fault for trying to do too much with my computer at once

Yes... I should mention that one of my CTDs was because I was running two games at once... I wanted to quickly check something out in another game and couldn't be bothered leavin this one.

(Thanks to StarDock's no-cd policy

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If you havnt already check your sound drivers. I used to have a heck of a time with games on my last motherboard. Took me gaes to find out it was some stupid on-board sound driver that was messing it all up. Ended up having to buy a 15 dollar sound blaster clone.

With PCs you get much more sophisticated games than consoles. Unfortunately you also run the chance that your particular harware will have some sort of terrible conflict. My sympathies, both Civ IV and GalCIv 2 have been the best two games released in the past year (including oblivion which for me is coming in 3rd).

MG

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http://www.memtest.org/#downiso

Get the pre-built iso as a zip file, unzip it and burn the iso to a CD. In case you are not completely computer savvy, that doesn't mean burn the ISO to the cd, but chooes the option "Burn CD image" and give it the image and it should put a bunch of files on the CD. If you are computer savvy then ignore the previous sentence because you know what to do

After you burn the cd, put it in the drive and reboot. It will perform a lot of tests. And if there is anything wrong a bunch of errors will be reported. If nothing happens for a long while, then your memory is probably ok.

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One hint for all of you experiencing this kind of abnormal behaviour:

Check the forums, see if a lot of others are reporting the exact same behaviour. If that is not the case, and it isn't here, then the problem is almost certainly NOT the game's fault. The exact same code runs fine on thausands of other computers. It is hardware obligue, meaning, it uses standard DirectX interface for audio and video.

In other words, this kind of abnormal, and anomalous behaviour is caused by flaky hardware, or in rare cases software incompatability. So while I sympathise with your problems - I have had my share of those over time too - please don't draw the most improbable conclusion and proclaim the game to be buggy, while it isn't.

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I have only 2 comments. Check the ram and check the CPU temperature. Borderline high CPU temps can cause random constant errors as well as bad ram.
Good Luck in fixing the problem because the game is just too good to not be able to play it.

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Another possible cause for the problem besides RAM (and a RAM problem would more likely result in a crash IMO) is a problematic background process, anything from Windows creating the File Index/System Restore Point/Quick Defrag to a mouse driver causing issues (as I had with Baldur's Gate II so long ago) or even a resident spyware program.

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i had major issues with city of heroes, boosted my ram, got new vid card, was changing my page file sizes, was trying a couple of different isp providers(game needs internet to play) etc... turns out i just needed to update my onboard audio drivers. never thought that my audio could have such an impact on performance, constant disconnects and freezing. needless to say the updates worked. did notice you have norton, i havent heard good things about that as far as gaming goes, i would try another antivirus if i were you but not sure how much trouble you want to go thru to uninstall and reinstall stuff.

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Before jumpingon the bug wagon, consider the history of your system. Are all service updates for the OS up to date? What programs have you installed since you got it? What web sites or music dowload stuff may be on it? Who have you let use it? etc etc etc.

What I am trying to say is that there could be thousands of reasons for your problems. Each system is as different as a fingerprint due to history of its use. No two system are the same. None.

Even it it was a bug that only your system causes to surface, I don't see how the devs are or could be responsible. Just the nature of the business.

Good luck!

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I don't see it mentioned.... but how many with this problem have tried doing a windows clean boot and then try playing the game??
Anti-virus software I would recommend be disabled as well... heck you shouldn't be on the internet while in the process of playing a single player game anyways thus no harm here.

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Franco fx

Join Date 04/2003

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Life after Norton is good.

I finally dumped Norton for AVG and it is the one best thing I have ever done to improve everyday performance.

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(slightly off topic)
Norton isn't very friendly anyway. It's given me blue screens before, even when turned off.
(me playing galciv) "what the hell? why is the game being so damn slow right now?"
alt+tab out of game to see what's going on.
Q norton antivirus Virus Scanner to pop up "Hey! I know you uninstalled me (twice), denied me all priveleges, set my priorities to minimum when I wouldn't leave, and everything else you could think of short of genocide at the Norton headquarters, but here I am, deep searching all your files, and scanning things, and generally making you miserable as I slow down your system!"
(Grabs a tanto) "MUM! I'll be back in a few days! need to speak to some antivirus developers!"

I would rather let the drinks machine from the Hitchikers Guide to the galaxy attempt to do my tax returns than deal with norton, ZoneAlarm and Butdefender are more efficient, and don't interrupt you.

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Please give:

1. your complete system specs

2. what programs you have running in the background (and don't say you arn't running any as xp always runs something in the background)

3. Make sure:
a: not to run anti-virus in background
b: update to xp sp2
c: latest bios updates
d: latest sound and graphic drivers ( nvidia drivers can be the exception to this)
e: test ram if you are getting memory exceptions
m: make sure your system isn't overheating ( this does happen, especially with system poorly cooled or with poor power supplies)

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This was my latest debug report.

The game froze about 5 minutes ago while a Scout ship was halfway his movement.

Debug Message: Version v1.0X.1 last updated on: Mon Mar 6 13:57:14 2006
Debug Message: Could not find a TGN Serial No.
Debug Message: *********DXDiag info follows.*********
System Info
Time: 3/25/2006, 01:48:56
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Machine Name: HOME-9B4F810800
Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519)
Languages: Dutch (Regional Setting: Dutch)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: BIOS Date: 06/21/05 19:06:37 Ver: 08.00.10
Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (2 CPUs)
Physical Memory: 1024MB RAM
Page File: 224MB used, 2237MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS

Display Info
Display device 1:
Device Name: \\.\DISPLAY1
Card Name: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip Type: GeForce 6600 GT
DAC Type: Integrated RAMDAC
Key Device: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0140&SUBSYS_81A41043&REV_A2
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Display Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (75Hz)
Monitor Name: Plug en Play-monitor
Monitor Max Resolution: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.8421
Driver Date: 3/9/2006 15:29:00
DirectX Acceleration Enabled: Yes

Sound info
Sound device 1:
Description: HD Audio-uitvoer (achter)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0880&SUBSYS_08800000&REV_0905
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Driver Name: HdAudio.sys
Provider: Microsoft
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.5011
Driver Date: 8/12/2004 17:45:52
Type: WDM
Other Drivers:
Acceleration Level: 3
Cap Flags: 0
Min/Max Sample Rate: 0, 0

Debug Message: *********END dxdiag info.*********
Debug Message: Entering WinMain
Debug Message: ******* Starting Game Shell *******
Debug Message: Going Fullscreen
Debug Message: Preparing to change display settings.
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Debug Message: Bit Depth: 32 bit.
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Debug Message: Now Fullscreen
Debug Message: Shell initialization complete
Debug Message: ***** Initializing Game *****
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Debug Message: Initializing sound card.
Debug Message: initailizing bink
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Debug Message: Clear influence.
Debug Message: Clear up laws.
Debug Message: Clear first time events.
Debug Message: Clear wonders and trade goods.
Debug Message: Clear sector mapper.
Debug Message: Set mouse.
Debug Message: Set update timer.
Debug Message: Clear data definitions.
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*DEBUG ERROR: ***Unable to find required tech ImpossibleTech for Starbase. ***
Debug Message: Reading Star Names
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Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\user\Mijn documenten\My Games\GalCiv2\Mods\*.sav
Debug Message: No files found matching mask C:\Documents and Settings\user\Mijn documenten\My Games\GalCiv2\Portraits\*.sav
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Debug Message: Killing ships.
Debug Message: Killing rallypoints.
Debug Message: Killing misc objects.
Debug Message: Killing stars.
Debug Message: Killing anomalies.
Debug Message: Killing space resources.
Debug Message: Killing colonies and planets.
Debug Message: killing scenario.
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Debug Message: DomesticWnd: Cannot find OBJID Domestic_Governor_Tab
Debug Message: DomesticWnd: Cannot find OBJID Domestic_Stats_Tab
Debug Message: DomesticWnd: Cannot find OBJID Domestic_Graphs_Tab
Debug Message: EconomicWnd: Cannot find OBJID Template_Button_Back
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Debug Message: ForeignRelationsWnd: Cannot find OBJID Foreign_Relations_Destabilize_Title
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Debug Message: Component defs data size: 132587
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Debug Message: Finished auto save.
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Debug Message: Max num techs: 248
Debug Message: Total tech data size: 147504 Max tech size: 1891
Debug Message: Total improvement db size: 62512
Debug Message: Component defs data size: 132790
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Debug Message: Total Ship config data size: 4526 Max ship config data size: 553
Debug Message: Total anomaly types data: 17300, Max anomaly type size: 692
Debug Message: Total random event data size: 31907 Max random event size: 1276
Debug Message: Total UP issue data size: 236940 Max UP issue size: 7180
Debug Message: Total resource type data size: 1600 Max resource type data size: 332
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Video Drivers: Latest, check.
Windows: XP SP2, check.
Sound Driver: 2004 ?? This may be it. See if there is a driver update and try it out.

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Unfortunately for the OP, Norton takes a serious amount of savvy to disable. And, yes, it WILL cause all sorts of random instability problems. As a general heads-up, PLEASE do not install Norton on your games machine. The days of Norton being Peter Norton's pet project, with all the single-minded perfection that entailed, are long behind us. As someone who has to maintain Symantec crap at work, I will stand and be counted - NAV suxors.

Given the limited info, I'd pull the trigger on NAV without a second thought. Get AVG, Kaspersky, or F-Prot instead. The chance of it being bad RAM can't be ruled out, but my experience is that Norton is prime suspect every time. Bad news is, you'll need to be unafraid of Regedit to get rid of it. And you could bork your box trying.

I have had crashes from this game, but they have been few and far between. The last I can remember involved a starbase upgrade dialogue being drawn behind the main map, such that the game got stuck waiting for me to choose Yes or No from a dialogue I couldn't see. Since the main window was catching all input, the machine appeared frozen and had to be hard rebooted. I have had 'fail to starts', but only when I've been messing with the shipclass files (Stardock: could it just ignore garbage input from that dir?).

And, for what it's worth, I haven't updated anything, and this machine is a home-built box-of-bits. If GC2 can run on this system, it can probably run on my microwave. So try a clean boot, if you can. If not, and if you have a router, right-click on everything in your systray (the icons next to the clock) and exit their programs.

Someone might be able to list the Windows service that the game actually requires. However, if you're desperate, bring up Task Manager and kill every process - this will definitely crash your machine! Write down the ones you need (svchost, lsass, csrss, smss, and winlogon if you're networked) and kill the rest. Then try the game again. Drastic, but I've known it to work.

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It's only been mentioned once above, so I'll mention it again: heat could be the problem. I know for me GalCiv II will crash after a while if I don't crank up my CPU fan speed (I have a manually adjustable one). Get a program like Motherboard Monitor 5, that can track your current heat (checking your BIOS after a crash is no good, CPU's cooled down by then). Have it save a temperature log, and check it from time to time. Also, it could be your video card overheating, which is harder to keep track of.

One way to eliminate overheating as the cause is to open the side of your case and point a regular room fan right at the insides, nice and close. Or open your window and let the cold air in, if it's cold in your area.

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It's only been mentioned once above, so I'll mention it again: heat could be the problem. I know for me GalCiv II will crash after a while if I don't crank up my CPU fan speed

I see, but is it possible that heat is already a problem while you're still setting up the game ? ( like choosing starting techs and colors and such) Isnt' it safe to assume that if the card already gets overheated at that point thath she will never work once you're about 50 turns into the game ( when a lot more is going on ) ?

I'll check out the sound drivers.

Thanks for the info on Norton. I'll make sure to get a better anti-virus program (this one came with the PC when I bought it about 8 weeks ago)

I tried for the last 30 minutes to find some updated audio drivers (on microsoft.com), but I can't for the life of me find them.
Is there anybody who can point me to them ?

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What's the hardware?

Start -> Control Panel -> System, Hardware tab, press Device Manager, click the cross beside Sound, Video & Game controllers. What's in there?

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Thanks Oneirocat.
Found : High Definition Audio Realtek 880
When I clicked that there was a possibility to update the drivers, which I did.
The Wizard checked the microsoft website (I reckon) and told me there were no newer drivers than the ones I was using.

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I do have to second the heat issue. I have a Shuttle SFF PC (SN41G2) with an NVIDIA 6800GT card, and used to overclock it to Ultra speeds for Doom 3. When HL2 came out, I did the same, but noticed it would crash every so often. After much mucking, I discovered taking off the case would solve the problem. I could also leave the case on and run the video card at normal speeds, and that would work as well.

Conclusion: some games tax the hardware big-time, resulting in increased temps, which can make the hardware wig out in certain games (but not all games).

I've since put a better fan in the thing (since I'm also overclocking my CPU) and now use Arctic Silver for the processor. Seems to help the overall system temps.

-HM

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